13 by Miss Watson Paul wrote: I think it may be worthwhile exploring your astrological Sun in great detail. It is in the 8th houes which is naturally explorative of the inner psyche and inner world of others around them - with the opposition to Pluto you know that things are not always as they seem and so you naturally have a kind of sixth sense or spidey sense about danger as well as the false smiles of those around you The square to Saturn only propogates this further, and makes you prefer isolating yourself somewhat from social situations in part because by doing so you sort of "get there first", before they can isolate or betray or not respect you, you may wish to pull away first. In modern astrology the sun is in a kite formation, so for many reasons that sun is highlighted for me. Try to explore it more and what the aspects may mean to you. On another note there's a grand trine involved with this aspect configuration between Pluto, Mars and the Moon with the Moon, ruler of the 10th receiving Mars (who is in fall) and there is a natural tendency perhaps to be aware of dangers with interpersonal relationships - are you in a romantic relationsihp? It is important to avoid toxic relationships but also to avoid getting too comfortable and using relationships as a buffer to protect you from having to get out there and socialise and speak to people and develop more healthy relationships with a wider variety of people. The answers from all of you were very enlightening. I took time reading everything and reflecting how this all applied in my life in various circumstances. Paul, you did a great analysis, thank you so much! It's all I feel. The fact that I have been seeking Saturn's compreenhension is the difficulty of approaching and trusting even in affective relationships. I thought there must be some karmic connection for me to act in a cautious way. But Pluto displays its strength on the map! According to astro.com, the dominant planet is Mars and second to the Moon, and third, Pluto. And I need to take a closer look at this Kite pattern and how it affects me. I think it's necessary to start with it. Thanks! Quote Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:56 pm
14 by Paul Miss Watson wrote: What confused me most is that many people (including the astrologer I hired) did not interpret Pluto, Uranus and Neptune, so I want to study my map deeply! That's a real shame that you did not understand your own chart more clearly from the astrologer you saw. Whilst I firmly believe all charts can be read without the outer planets and all the significant themes of your life can be read with just the traditional planets, I personally do use them and find that they can add more colour or nuance to the interpretation. On a modern form I challenged the notion that the outers are a requirement for interpretation and read a half a dozen or so natal charts and interpreted them psychologically so as to prove the point. What I mean by this is that not using the outers is really not enough for the astrologer to have not hit closer to home on your chart or perhaps explain it better in a way that resonated with you - having said that, we all have bad days, perhaps you got him/her on a bad day. "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing" - Socrates https://heavenlysphere.com/ Quote Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:24 pm
15 by Tanit3333 What confused me most is that many people (including the astrologer I hired) did not interpret Pluto, Uranus and Neptune, so I want to study my map deeply! Are they a traditional astrologer? Traditional astrologers would not look at those infliences. I honestly don't know why anyone would ignore the outer planets when they provide so much information, but each astrologer may give you information that another astrologer might not see because there is always so much to discover. It is important before paying money for astrological services to make sure that the style of the astrologer aligns with the type of reading you are looking for. Sometimes they can give you example readings so that you can get a feel for what to expect. I have had various types of readings from many astrologers over the years and none of them have the same exact approach (or skill), which is good because not everyone is looking for the same thing - some people want predictions, some self discovery, etc. No one will ever be more interested in your chart than you though, so if you want to understand your chart, I think the best way is to basically do what you are doing - ask questions, look at other resources, etc. Quote Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:56 am
16 by Miss Watson Paul wrote: I personally do use them and find that they can add more colour or nuance to the interpretation. we all have bad days, perhaps you got him/her on a bad day. It's what I think! Well, I think I was on a bad day when I chose him. I won't go into detail due to ethical issues, but I found all his interpretations on the internet later. Yes, he is a traditional astrologer. But I think outer planets are important. Any information we can have, may become a new clue about what we are looking for in life. Tanit3333 wrote: It is important before paying money for astrological services to make sure that the style of the astrologer aligns with the type of reading you are looking for. Sometimes they can give you example readings so that you can get a feel for what to expect. No one will ever be more interested in your chart than you though, so if you want to understand your chart, I think the best way is to basically do what you are doing - ask questions, look at other resources, etc. After this disappointment, I dedicated my studies to astrology deeper, but even the books I find offer separate interpretations. An example reading based on an artist or kings maps when you already know their whole life makes easy to identify which points are highlighted (that was the reason I chose him), but to take as base a map of unknown becomes complicated. That's why I try to study my own map carefully and also my family's in order to find out what energies I need to work on and find my hidden potentials! Thank you all for the dedication and help! Quote Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:18 pm