253 by Bulletbobb I just happened to look at this thread and would like to toss out an idea I've experimented with in sports astrology, and which might work in horse racing, about which I know almost nothing. I actually mention this in a thread on the Stuporbowl, but I'll mention it here as no one is interested in that game anymore. As I understand it, one of the big problems with horse racing is you have to pick one horse from a dozen or so with the same race time, and thus the same chart. There may be a partial way to get around this: simply relocate the chart to the home location of each of the horses and judge accordingly. If a number of horses have the same, or almost the same location, then I imagine their birth location would also work. I've never tried this with horses, but it works in sports, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. As to what method you would use to interpret the chart, I cannot say. Never tried it. In sports, the 'relocated' team goes in the first, and the first six houses, including the 4th (usually), and the 10th, go to them. I imagine the 7th would refer to the other horses (open enemies). To test, pick a major upset and check both the winner and the looser. In sports you work with the looser, but in racing it might show best with the winner. Their relo chart should be lit up like a searchlight. Bulletbobb Quote Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:12 pm
254 by woke satan John, With regards to house systems, it's my view that campanus is the one to use for the type of astrology that we do. That's because it puts the prime vertical at the location of the chart. Astrologically, predicting when the favourites win is likely to get a high percentage success rate but could produce a loss financially. Personally, I've never really looked into the astrological significators for favourites. Although what you say is quite true, if you're doing win singles, that is. If I'm backing favs, I'll usually put them into a win multiple, but to be honest, I'm looking for value. I'm more likely to have an each way bet on a 20/1 shot in the hope that it's going to at least place. If your getting 1/4 of the odds on a 20/1, your still making a +4 point profit, or +3 if your getting 1/5 of the odds. It's worth remembering that an each way bet is in fact 2 bets - a win and a place. If you get the place, you lose the win part of the bet but at least you still get a return. That's why you get +3 or + 4 and not +4 or +5. Personally, I only do e/w single on something that's 4 or 5/1 or longer. But any multiple that I place is always e/w. I heard somewhere that if a bet on the Premier League champions winning all their home games would have a resulted in a financial loss over the season but the percentage success would have been reasonably good. Any of the top 4 or 5 teams (and Arsenal..!) are normally odds-on to win at home. Man City for example are normally 2/7 or 2/9 ON to win at home and they're usually fairly short away too. In this arena, it’s knowing when to play or pass with a prediction which influences both the percentage success and the profit. I agree, if I cast a chart for a race, and I do most days, I only need a cursory glance to see if that chart will reveal anything. And quite often it doesn't. Then again, I don't claim to have a system that wins 100% of the time. The system that I use - a hybrid version of JAM - gives me a slight edge and I don't really hope for anything more than that. However, I do compare my astrological selections with pro tipsters and I'm at least on par with them in terms of winning percentage. Certainly, I'm ahead of them in terms of profit, taking places into account. Having said that, I use the astrology as an added 'tool' - I also take stats into account. But, without question, it certainly adds to one's winning stats, be they percentage or profit. Trainer Ruth Jefferson has had 16 wins and 22 places from 74 runs, a 22% win rate. On a £1 stake, you'd be £74.75 in profit. On the other hand, Dan Skelton has had 115 wins and 268 places from 727 runners. The win % is similar, 21%, but you'd be £35.16 DOWN on a £1 stake. Most of Skelton's horses are usually in the first 3 or 4 in the betting, so it doesn't always pay to back favourites. I seem to remember a thread that argued against JAM because it produces too many placed horses. My argument then as it is now is that if you get a 20/1 placed horse at either 1/5 or 1/4 odds is better than a win at 6/4. Quote Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:03 pm
255 by Vas skyrack wrote:This is what I have: There Is No Point (IRE) 166 Too Scoops (IRE) 166 Court Dismissed (IRE) 165 It's A Mans World 164 Heist (IRE) 161 Watt Broderick (IRE) 158 Good of Luck 158 Hairy O'malley (IRE) 151 Scale: 15 Sepharial PoF: 166.12696708213 Signifier: Moon Measure: 28.104294630689 Certain Proportions: 2.3420245525574 5.1579754474426 Indicated: 163.65797544744 156.15797544744 array (size=8) 'It's A Mans World' => float 0.3420245525574 'Court Dismissed (IRE)' => float 1.3420245525574 'Watt Broderick (IRE)' => float 1.8420245525574 'Good of Luck' => float 1.8420245525574 'There Is No Point (IRE)' => float 2.3420245525574 'Too Scoops (IRE)' => float 2.3420245525574 'Heist (IRE)' => float 2.6579754474426 'Hairy O'malley (IRE)' => float 5.1579754474426 Selections: It's A Mans World But as I say, I have some updates to do to bring it into line with my post this morning. If you have anything different from my Signifier, Measure, Proportions and Indicated let me know please. Just curious, how do you get the numbers indicated in bold please? https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/rac ... e-5-stakes Quote Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:00 pm