85 by Stefan james_m wrote:thanks stefan, so the sun is not included in the 6th planet in longitude concept? or the nodes? in longitude i get jupiter (ketu) mars moon venus saturn sun mercury (rahu) that is what makes the gk in all these indian charts i see? i have been curious about it for a while... please confirm or not if i have this.. thanks! James, I go by the methodology of not including the nodes in this delination. Some schools including nodes.. And you are using the correct technique..but in reverse. The planet with the Highest longitude is atmakaraka (VE) 26 degrees....then AM is next highest longitude..and that is in Hamish chart Sun at 17 degrees. Mercury as Gk is then the 6th at 7.28. And the planet with the lowest longitude is Jupier, which then becomes the Dk (Darakaraka), relationship indicator in Jaimini astrology. Quote Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:46 pm
86 by james_m aj hamish didn't say when the abuse stopped.. he speculated with a high degree of confidence that his oldest sister had been sexually abused herself via her uncle - who was married to his dad's sister... he was never able to have this conversation with her though and it was years later... when hamish went to private school around age 13, that would have stopped all this, but i have asked him for clarity on this - along with the birth data we are still waiting on.. the D7 chart for me was just another way to address some 7th harmonic aspects in hamishs chart which seemed to describe his relationship with his siblings.. whether the chart gets used for this - i kind of doubt it, but i am not thinking D7 chart so much as 7th harmonic aspects... this is another reason i have been drawn to indian astrology.. the info and knowledge on harmonics in the west is pretty limited.. i have been curious to know how these divisional charts are used and understood in indian astro.. hamishs relationship with his 2 daughters from 2 different marriages is one of estrangement as well.. there is no communication between them.. this is how his 2 daughters want it.. sun on the south node rising in his D7 chart and sun in direct opposition to pluto in the 7th definitely describes this.. whether it describes his relationship with his oldest sister - it would seem to as well.. thanks for your feedback on the usefulness of the D4 and D12 in this regard.. i don't have enough experience and this motivates me to consider this.. thanks for the refresher on the nodes and whether they make aspects or not and etc.. this quagmire in the literature is replicated with regard to rulership themes on the nodes and etc. etc.. i like what judith hill https://judithhillastrology.com/ has said on the nodes in her book on the nodes... she tends to associate a more positive expression to the north node and a more negative one to the south node, but she is much more nuanced then this in her writings.. she is a 2nd or 3rd generation astrologer who i highly regard.. as a result of my temperament, i am inclined to keep an open mind on what does or doesn't work with regard to the nodes.. as a consequence of this, it means i haven't put my eggs in one of these theoretical baskets and tend to forget what all the different baskets look like! with regard to midpoints and so much of astrology for me - i am more into the research - hindsight astrology basically.. i am not a practicing astrologer, but i am fascinated by the connections and correlations that appear.. ''as above, so below'' is a saying i relate to.. perhaps that is my philosophy, although i never really thought of it like that until now.. astrology is a reflection of this ideology in action.. midpoints seem to have a lot of merit... the sun-moon= neptune in hamishs chart seems to hold true based on my understanding of him.. thanks for your comments! Quote Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:23 pm
87 by james_m stefan, thanks! i had to figure this out in some weird way... it is not the highest longitude in 360, but the highest longitude per 30 degree slices... thanks for helping me understand this gk concept.. it is littered in a lot of literature i have read and has been a mystery to me how they arrived at this.. however, i know next to nothing of gulika - is that gk stands for?).... they make it sound like another saturn in the birth chart, lol... these fatalistic astrologers will leave no stone unturned, lol! Quote Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:26 pm
88 by james_m aj - hamish is saying it ended april 1960... so it sounds like it might have been very limited, although he has said he saw his siblings involved in it as well, so it overshadowed his childhood significantly.. hamish quote - " 6 months James .... Nov 59 to April 1960" Quote Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:29 pm
89 by Stefan james_m wrote:stefan, thanks! i had to figure this out in some weird way... it is not the highest longitude in 360, but the highest longitude per 30 degree slices... thanks for helping me understand this gk concept.. it is littered in a lot of literature i have read and has been a mystery to me how they arrived at this.. however, i know next to nothing of gulika - is that gk stands for?).... they make it sound like another saturn in the birth chart, lol... these fatalistic astrologers will leave no stone unturned, lol! Gk means gnati karaka, not Gulika. Gulika is some point in the chart that I have never minded to investigate. I have probably read about it some time, but don't remember what it is. It is not something that my various teachers seems to give much importance to either. Quote Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:06 am
90 by james_m thanks for clarifying that stefan! i have to watch out for the abbreviations! gk this and gk that! Quote Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:06 pm