"Will I get accepted into Stanford"?

[Taurus7]

My son posed this question a few hours after he submitted the application. He has a lot going for him. The essays required for the application are killers. Stanford has an outrageous acceptance rate, i.e. I think 1 out of 6 applicants or something like that. They refuse applicants with perfect scores, applicants that are number one in their school and county, and so on. They are one of the most difficult schools to get into. My son labored and spent HOURS making everything right. He has great scores. After all was said and done, I came to the conclusion that I'd be really surprised if they did not accept him.

"Will I get accepted into Stanford?"
Oct 31, 2009, 10:04 PM, Kinnelon, NJ

He was the Moon (1st house) and I gave Jupiter to Stanford (9th). I think the symbolism for Stanford is appropriate: Jupiter

I got a 16 deg 43 Cancer ascendant and the Moon is APPROACHING a sextile to Jupiter within minutes!. Jupiter receives the Moon into its triplicity. Moon has no essential dignities as such but is accidentally strong in the 10th. Moon is coming to an opposition to Venus in the 4rth after it sextiles Jupiter. This could be me actually *opposing* him going there, IF he should get accepted into some other Ivy league school, because Stanford is in California and 3000 miles away, and I'm not sure I could handle him being so far away!! Of course, this is assuming he gets accepted into some other Ivy league university on the east coast.
However, I would like to see some other signs of perfection and not sure I see any. Can any of you see a reason that this horary could be delivering a "No" answer (and dash my hopes to the ground!!) But we must accept the truth!!)

[Tanit333]

Yes, the applying sextile and the peregrine Moon accidentally strong in the 10th, but Stanford looks pretty bad here! Jupiter is peregrine and in the house of anguish. Doesn't look like a particularly nice school for your boy to attend. What subject is he going to study? The 8th house may be showing this - medical, forensics, etc. I am a Californian, and I do know how competitive the students are there, so perhaps your son would be overwhelmed by the atmosphere and not like it. It could also be the geographical distance, as you mentioned.

I'm curious about Mars in the 1st focused on the 5th house planets. Moon is in a sign of Mars, and Mars rules the 5th. Does he have someone back home he will miss? Also, the 2nd house ruler is squaring Stanford, which makes me think that there will be a financial issue. Stanford in the 8th may show heavy loans, and that you will be thinking about the financial burdens.

[Tanit333]

Also, the application may be Mercury, and Stanford likes Mercury, which is creative in the 5th, but again Mercury is combust the 2nd house ruler and squares Stanford. Makes me really wonder about financial issues...

[janeg]

Hi Taurus7,

I use Placidus, with Dorotheus triplicities and Egyptian terms.



Moon is L1, Saturn L9.
L1 is in L9's Fall - your son doesn't really want to go to Stanford but his family exalts Stanford (Saturn in Libra in 4th). Has your son said Stanford is his first choice or has he shown a preference for another school?

Moon's first aspect is a sextile to Jupiter in the 8th. Moon is in Jupiter's triplicity; think this may mean your son will get offered a minor scholarship from another school because of his grades (Jupiter rules 10th - reputation). Minor as Jupiter is only in his own term. And that he likes the school making the offer better than Stanford (Moon in Jupiter's triplicity).

[Taurus7]

Tanit333:

[Taurus7]

Janeg,

[janeg]

Hi Taurus ...

[handn]

Hi all

Seems indeed like a good example of the differences between the house systems.

Also the dignities systems!

Regards

H.
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To be or not to be? Are they the only options?

[Taurus7]

I will know by December 15th and will post an update. Thanks!

[dr. farr]

I question if I should even dare post this here-not trying to be controversial but, the (lets say peculiar) methods I have used for years in horary (almost exclusively in medical horary) which have yielded (for ME) quite reliable positive results, are quite at variance with the (obviously expert) methods I have read here in the Skyscript horary/electional section.
For example,
-I exclusively use Whole Sign Houses in horary
-I totally disregard the planetary hour rules in judgement
-in the chart being studied in this thread, I would not have made any judgement because the Dragon's Tail is found in the Asc sign, and one of the very few "strictures" against judgement that I follow is Gerard of Cremona's "rule" that the Dragon's Tail posited in the Asc sign "...renders the chart corrupt and unfit for judgement...", requiring that the question be asked again at a later time.

[Tanit333]

"Seems indeed like a good example of the differences between the house systems."

Yes, and often times different systems give the same sort of answer. I was saying I think he will be accepted, but won't go (basically go somewhere else). That's pretty much the same conclusion the Placidus reader gave.

I did notice the dragon's tail in the 1st. I don't take it as destroying the question myself, though it did strengthen my feeling that he would probably choose to not go to Stanford, or that Stanford might not be a great choice.

Stanford is in a beautiful area of California, and an excellent institution, so I personally don't feel he'd go wrong in accepting. I wish him luck, in whatever school he goes to! If he does go to CA, I know that UCDavis and UCLA are great schools for the sciences (I am also a scientist). UCSF is the best for graduate school, in my opinion (they don't offer undergrad degrees).

[handn]

[Deb]

One of the reasons we emphasize that this forum offers support and discussion to astrologers, and does not aim to answer the questions for them, is to recognise that the astrologer’s mind is the instrument through which the question takes form and by which the analysis becomes a judgement. Horary is not an objective rational science; so I doubt it will say anything at all about the relative merit of different techniques when we know the outcome of the situation. A technique which is used very effectively by one astrologer won’t guarantee a reliable answer in the hands of someone who has no focussed connection with the symbolism or who doesn’t really care about or understand the question being asked. (This is a general comment of course – I am not suggesting that is the case here!)

On the other hand, I see the principle of angularity as one of the most basic, important and reliable indicators in horary (and all forms of astrology), and since I recognise it as a factor which underlies both the efficiency of planets and the actual meaning of the houses, I feel that a lot of good information is lost if quadrant systems are not used in horary – particularly when we think about the traditional importance of aspectual applications to house cusps, and the detail offered when a planet remains in the same house but changes sign. That is my personal view: that quadrant systems add more to the system; beyond that I don’t think it is possible to say which system works best – my own reasons for going with Regio were so that I would be signing on the same hymn sheet as most other horary astrologers today and with the historical examples I was most interested in. It would now be impossible for me not to admit that my 20-year habit has created a bias.

A deeper issue for me in this thread is whether this question has enough integrity and emotional focus to be taken as a reliable horary in terms of the question being judged. We have an interesting discussion taking place in another thread regarding when and how event charts become meaningful for one particular person, as opposed to all the other people who are also there at that time. I think that a similar principle applies to differentiate between questions that generate descriptive charts, and *horaries* driven by the force of the mind, spirit and soul uniting to seek the answer to a question of deep importance to that individual. The choice of university is obviously a matter of great consequence, but why would the soul *need* to seek guidance upon an action that has already been committed?

[steven]

[janeg]