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Andrew Bevan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:11 am Post subject: Mercury on the far side |
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Mercury made its superior conjunction with the Sun today on 5 Nov 2009. Due to the alligment with Mercury's nodes, Mercury passed on a direct line and 0on the back side of the Sun, hidden for observation from the Earth. So for a while, the solar system appear to have a planet less.
Irrelevant of cazimi, I checked with WinStars and Mercury disappeared at about 02.40 GMT and reappears a 16.10 GMT - so it is gone all day as far as Europe is concerned. If anyone would like to check me on this - please do.
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3D
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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With Cartes du Ciel, I get GMT 02:30 - 16:00.
Not bad for a free Astronomy programme, isn't it? 
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Eddy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps there's a relation between all that rain pouring down yesterday (around the North-Sea countries) and the Mercury superior conjunction.
Perhaps this is an interesting view of Kepler (found in his 'Concerning the More Certain Fundamentals of Astrology' on Patrice Guinard's amazing DIAL page http://cura.free.fr/DIAL.html )
| Kepler wrote: | Thesis 31
As to the planets’ humidity and the extent to which their light is borrowed, one may consider their emersions or occultations (eclipses) and oppositions. Saturn, being in opposition to the Sun on May 11th and conjoined to the same on Nov 18th, at both positions will exercise in the highest degree the moistening power, which it possesses, because it turns its full face, illuminated by the Sun towards us. This moistening power will be least on February 11th and August 9th in either quartile (square). Jupiter, similarly, will be in opposition (to the Sun) on April 8th, and on October 26th in conjunction; whereas similarly on January 8th and July 6th it will be in quartile successively in the intervening and following periods of time. Venus has a different effect and so has Mercury. For on May 15th, conjoined to the Sun above, its moistening power is great before (the conjunction), later growing successively less; and in the following year, conjoined to the Sun below (it moistens) the least. Similarly, Mercury is scant (in moisture) on January 4th, April 30th, August 29th, and December 19th. For on being conjoined to the Sun below, it turns upward its whole face, illuminated by the Sun; but it (moistens) most of all on March 9th, June 27th, October 19th, when it conjoins the Sun above, and turns its lighted face down.2*)
footnote*) 2 The words ‘above and below’ as used here refer to Celestial Latitude, i.e., “above” meaning the conjunction takes place when Venus is north of the ecliptic.
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Andrew Bevan
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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My wife had a doctors appointment yesterday at 09.45 CST at the very minute Mercury was conjunct the Sun's center. The doctor set a H1N1 vaccine, felt it and the next thing my wife knew she woke up on the floor. The doctor was yelling to get contact with her and had apparently thrown a glass of water over her and slapped her in the face to try and retrieve her. The doctor appologized for the slapping, but my wife didn't remember it happening. The doctor obviously had a hard time there and then because a young baby was also in the need of an ambulance.
Another horary this day came from a investor who was looking for a local top in the market and a rotation to the downside. This question came in at 11.36 CST, Mercury still behing the Sun. The Moon was in Gemini and on the descendant.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Eddy,
about Kepler’s Thesis XXXI
| Quote: | Similarly, Mercury is scant (in moisture) on January 4th, April 30th, August 29th, and December 19th. For on being conjoined to the Sun below, it turns upward its whole face, illuminated by the Sun; but it (moistens) most of all on March 9th, June 27th, October 19th, when it conjoins the Sun above, and turns its lighted face down.2*)
footnote*) 2 The words ‘above and below’ as used here refer to Celestial Latitude, i.e., “above” meaning the conjunction takes place when Venus is north of the ecliptic.
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This is a very bad translation, absolute nonsense. 
| Quote: | | For on being conjoined to the Sun below, it turns upward its whole face, illuminated by the Sun; |
This should mean:
“For at the inferior conjunction with the sun, it turns its whole illuminated side away from the earth…”
| Quote: | | when it conjoins the Sun above, and turns its lighted face down. |
And this:
"..when it is in superior conjunction with the sun, and turns the illuminated side earthwards."
Nowhere, Kepler mentions or refers to the latitude. It is an invention of this lousy translator. Even the title of this excellent booklet is not correctly translated (De Fundamentis Astrologiae Certioribus). 
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Eddy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hi René,
Thanks for the explaining remarks. When I read the text before I saw the footnote I assumed that superior and inferior conjunction were meant. Perhaps the translator didn't really have astronomical knowledge. In the introdutory parts I see that conjunctions and oppositions are meant so indeed the remarks of above and below the ecliptic are a bit odd one out.
Unfortunately I don't read Latin so I can't read any original texts. Did you look at the Latin original or do you know of other translations, German, English (on the internet)? |
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3D
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Hi Eddy
I have an old, worn-out latin version and a good german translation:
Von den gesicherten Grundlagen der Astrologie - Johannes Kepler - Taschenbuch - 69 Seiten (1999) - Chiron Verlag - ISBN: 3925100385
I haven’t found a good english translation – what a pity! – I think this is one of the best astrology books. Kepler anticipates a lot of recent insights like they come from chaos theory, from the gaia theory (Lovelock) and from Teilhard de Chardin. Plus you get some hands-on weather astrology and political astrology. Everything on 65 small pages! 
René
P.S. nothing on the internet except CURA |
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Eddy
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for mentioning the German book René, I'll keep this book in mind. Do you think that one should rather not read that English translation? Although there are parts that are unclear I have the impression that I got the essence of it. But if it's really bad then sometimes it is better not to have the text at all.
By the way, I have a French translation of the Mysterium Cosmographicum. Here's a review http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1986JHA....17..203K/0000203.000.html Although I read French, I haven't had enough time to seriously read most of it and to understand it totally. |
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