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Taurus7
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Deb:
| Quote: | | So this was asked 'after all was said and done'. I personally think this is the wrong way to use horary – or else, I would see the question as relating to another concern, beyond whether the opportunity will be offered. Maybe the Moon’s application to the 9th ruler in the 8th house is revealing that his real concern is wrapped up in anxiety that he will get accepted, and will then feel obliged to pursue an opportunity that is not suitable for him, because of the public status and supposed reputation of the university. Why else would he get this moment of concern after he has sent the application, and done everything that he possibly can? That’s the moment when most people start to relax, and stop worrying for a while. I would want to probe this, because it is possible that what we might judge to be a succesful outcome is only the start of the problem; and what we might see as the negative might actually be the perfect solution for this particular querent. |
I just love it when it when you pop into a discussion!! 
I asked him why he asked the question when he did. He answered that he worked really, really hard at the application. He would really like to go there. He worked on the application for days, researched everything he possibly could, and once the application was submitted, he wanted to know if his hard work would yield the result that he would like. I asked him whey he did not ask the question before, and he answered because he had not submitted the application as of yet, so he had not done the legwork that was required, so how can he ask a question about it, if he has not even "headed" in that direction, so to speak.
Actually, he worked so hard at this application, he immediately got sick after submitting it. I think he worked his mind so hard that his immune system broke down a bit afterwards - honest! Which led me to the moral conclusion that I think it's really unfair of these prestigious universities to exert this kind of pressure on young 18 year olds!
Personally, I would say this to you. If you lose an object that is of importance to you, they tell you not to ask a horary as to its whereabouts until you have done everything to find it - right? So along the same lines, he has done everything he can to gain admission into the university, he focused completely on the application - and then, once the application was submitted, he let his mind relax and the question came to him. I have been doing horary for years, but he never asked me a horary about anything; this was his first. Whether or not he will get into Stanford is clearly a matter of concern to him.
I think it's similar to if you go to an interview for a job, you really want the job, and as you walk out of the office, you ask the question "Will I get the job?"
Whether or not this is the correct application of horary, I don't know. But what I do know is that questions like these are clearly of great concern to our hearts, and they seem to be directed by the universe itself, to be asked at that particular moment in time. |
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janeg
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Well, that's two strikes against my initial reading 
1. He likes the school
2. His parents don't 'exalt' it
I feel for your son, have two daughters that went through university and they tied themselves in knots for months worrying if they'd get accepted by a school they wanted.
Hope things work out well for him. |
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dr. farr
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Janeg: since becoming a member of Skyscript last month I have read many of your postings: in my opinion you do excellent work and I consider you an astrology expert.
As in natural healing (my professional field), prognostic investigation of subtle, macrocosmic influences and their ramifications is a difficult (though highly satisfying) endeavor. In my analysis of the "missing man in Boston" death which I will be posting shortly (conclusion being accidental death due to sudden sickness-probably connected with some type of internal toxemic reaction) there is every possibility that in a couple of weeks, when the post mortem results are in, my analysis will be completely exploded, leaving me with a large quantity of egg on my face! However, as I always tell my students, being dead wrong on occasion-and being only PARTIALLY correct much more frequently-comes with the territory. |
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janeg
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| dr. farr wrote: | | Janeg: since becoming a member of Skyscript last month I have read many of your postings: in my opinion you do excellent work and I consider you an astrology expert. |
Thank you for the kind words; life long student is closer to the mark though.
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As in natural healing (my professional field), prognostic investigation of subtle, macrocosmic influences and their ramifications is a difficult (though highly satisfying) endeavor. |
Do you practice homoeopathy?
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In my analysis of the "missing man in Boston" death which I will be posting shortly (conclusion being accidental death due to sudden sickness-probably connected with some type of internal toxemic reaction) there is every possibility that in a couple of weeks, when the post mortem results are in, my analysis will be completely exploded, leaving me with a large quantity of egg on my face! However, as I always tell my students, being dead wrong on occasion-and being only PARTIALLY correct much more frequently-comes with the territory. |
lol...the egg-on-the-face does seem to come with the territory; I don't mind the egg, I do feel it's necessary to own up to it, as Valen's, Lilly, and numerous other early astrologer's remind us, be thou humble ... 'cause if you aren't, the Art itself will remind you of the need  |
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dr. farr
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Yes, my degree is doctor of medical science in homeopathy, and I've been a homeopathic practitioner since 1982 (also use herbal remedies and certain bioenergetic applications as well), and I have been teaching homeopathy (and bioenergetics) at the American University of Complementary Medicine (Beverly Hills, CA) since 1996.
+Being a homeopath inclines one to look at things on a "totality" of indications ("symptoms") basis, rather than toward isolating single elements in a case. This mindset dominates my way of looking at astrological influences, making me always pay most attention to the over all "pattern" or "essence" of a chart, rather than to any specific element in it, and then-based upon this over all "pattern" or "essence"-to interpret each individual element within the "meaningfull context" of that over all "essence". This "homeopathic" mindset also leads one to search for "strange rare peculiar persistent" characteristics (that's how homeopaths look at their cases) to provide keys to the "essence" of a chart, rather than giving prime consideration to broad but less "characteristic" chart indications.
+Homeopaths (and bioenergetic practitioners) also search for subtle indications in their therapeutic cases, often giving much more value to these hidden indications than to the more apparent, obvious symptoms. Likewise in my astrological analyses I search for the less obvious influences, like fixed star parallels, Pauline profection indications, monomoria relationships, the 12ths of signs, connections involving the Dragon's Tail, "dynamic" dodekatemoria, a wide variety of "Arabic" Parts, etc. So, because of my "homeopathic" mindset, my way of considering astrological indications is often fundamentally different from that of other astrological practitiomers. |
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janeg
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Hi Dr Farr, thank you for the reply. Sounds like a an interesting, and thorough approach, to the chart. |
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voyagergirl
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject: Will I get into Stanford? |
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As I read the chart, the answer is no. I base my interpretation on the fact that the ruler of the ninth, Saturn, is not making an aspect to the ruler of the first, the Moon. While I would agee that generally Jupiter rules higher education (and therefore will be in a sextile with the Moon) Jupiter is in the 8th house of worry and disappointment.
Not only that, the degree on the ninth house cusp is 28, signifying something "too late" about the issue.
I hope I'm wrong, because Stanford has an excellent reputation (though it's NOT an Ivy League school)!
The "real" ivies are all on the east coast and they: Brown, Columbia, Dartmouth, Cornell, Harvard, University of Pennsylvania and Yale.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League |
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voyagergirl
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: Oops! forgot Princeton |
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The last of the 8 Ivy League schools is Princeton. Sorry, all you Princeton grads!
But while I'm at it, I also wonder if Saturn posted in the eighth in this chart could mean that there will be no financial aid or scholarship coming even if he is accepted: and the lack of financial support could mean that he must attend college elsewhere.
Please keep up posted! |
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Taurus7
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VoyagerGirl:
| Quote: | | As I read the chart, the answer is no. I base my interpretation on the fact that the ruler of the ninth, Saturn, is not making an aspect to the ruler of the first, the Moon. |
I think you are using a house system other than Regio, resulting in Saturn ruling the 9th. For those of us who used Regio, we had Jupiter ruling the 9th, and thus came to a potential "Yes" answer because of the sextile of the Moon to Jupiter.. Therefore, since this is a chart to which we will have a definite yes or no answer by Dec 15th, the outcome should be interesting in terms of which house is the qualifier, and then it would be a question of "why" that house.
| Quote: | | Not only that, the degree on the ninth house cusp is 28, signifying something "too late" about the issue. |
I thought the "late" degree rule applied only to the ascendant and this is the first time I see a reference to a house cusp. I have also seen it being applied as a "critical" degree if a planet is in that degree. But never to a house cusp. Where did you pick this up from?
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voyagergirl
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:58 am Post subject: stanford acceptance? |
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You're correct: 0 degrees Pisces rules the 9th and thus is signified by Jupiter.
Still, what troubles me is the 9th house significator in the 8th house.
As for having an interpretation of a matter being "too late" regarding a cusp that is more than 27 degrees, I believe I got that from either Lee Lehman or Barbara Watters. |
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