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SGFoxe



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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 2:54 pm    Post subject: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Reply with quote

Talk about high comedy ... a French farce, chambermaid and all, to follow the Dreyfus tragedy, in perfect form Moliere would love as well as Marx (elbow nudge -- things occur 2x in history, tragedy and farce)

Wikipedia birthdate ... April 25, 1949 -- Mars & Moon in Aries in the sixth (my 'intuitive' rectification) moon the chambermaid ... late libra rising, the part I like best is where the NYTimes report says

"Leaders of the Socialist party pleaded with the public to withhold judgment until more facts emerged about his arrest in connection with the alleged sexual attack of a maid at a Manhattan hotel Saturday afternoon." ...

Nothing funnier than see an Official Socialist oppressing the (international)working class.

Is dubbing him The World's Biggest Putz a bridge too far?
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


“Paddy de Jabrun quotes birth certificate”, Roden Rating AA, Astro Databank.

Dominique Strauss-Kahn Sex Scandal
http://darkstarastrology.com/dominique-strauss-kahn-horoscope-sexual-scandal/

The astrological saga behind Strauss-Kahn's (IMF's head) alleged assault to a hotel maid!
http://science-astrology.blogspot.com/2011/05/strauss-kahn-imfs-head-sexually.html

BTW, Have a look at Kahn's recent solar return chart for the birthplace. It has exactly the same angles as the natal chart and so the chart finally "keeps its promise". Have a look at the same solar return chart relocated to New York City, and you will find the natal Taurus Sun exactly conjunct the Asc.


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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know the first thing I noticed was the lovely Transiting Mars, Venus, Mercury (and even Jupiter) lining up with his natal Sun, Mars and Venus, but then I realized that means they are also applying to square his lovely natal Jupiter and Pluto. Possibly suggesting his dominant earthy nature opposes his power and luck? okay odd thought, but thought I'd mention it.

Also it seems transiting sun at 23 Taurus is applying to square his natal Saturn, suggesting the worst has yet to hit him. and I agree it has all the elements of a farce. Smile

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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SGfoxe wrote:
Talk about high comedy ... a French farce, chambermaid and all, to follow the Dreyfus tragedy, in perfect form Moliere would love as well as Marx.


My idea is it is not a mystification at all. Here we have Mars with Venus, beheld by Saturn and with Mercury. "On the other hand if Mars, Venus and Mercury, the turpitudes will be enormous: the native will be inclined to rape, lust; he will be violent, liar, and foolish, sexually capable,"

"Saturn, Venus, Mercury together make the native corrupted in very excess."

This is Cardano, but it comes from Ptolemy.

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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

margherita wrote:
My idea is it is not a mystification at all. Here we have Mars with Venus, beheld by Saturn and with Mercury. "On the other hand if Mars, Venus and Mercury, the turpitudes will be enormous: the native will be inclined to rape, lust; he will be violent, liar, and foolish, sexually capable,"


Very Interesting and clear.
Im thinking most important also the conj Venus-Sun-Hamal in natal chart, as well as the square - in RS11 - Venus-Pluto in VI (servitude) with conj Venus-Uranus-Diphda, "many secret love affairs and bad for love affairs" (Robson).

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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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in RS11 - Venus-Pluto in VI (servitude) with conj Venus-Uranus-Diphda, "many secret love affairs and bad for love affairs" (Robson).


Natal Moon is with Difda (Deneb Kaitos) and at the time of alleged attack Transit Uranus was exactly conjunct that Moon.

Moon with Deneb Kaitos: Pioneer, reckless, headstrong, violent temper, many quarrels. [Robson*, p.162.]

Natal Jupiter and Desc are with fixed stars in Aquila- Tarazed
,Sham, Albiero, Altair
: Spoil and plunder, Strong passions, fame, will,Combative, opinionated, impulsive...

Ps The last lunar return charts before the incident (April 30 2011) for both the natal place and NYC are both very clear with a prominent combination of angular Pluto and Venus , either the natal or transit placements.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anghelos Theon wrote:

Im thinking most important also the conj Venus-Sun-Hamal in natal chart, as well as the square - in RS11 - Venus-Pluto in VI (servitude) with conj Venus-Uranus-Diphda, "many secret love affairs and bad for love affairs" (Robson).

AD


This is not the traditional section, anyway I tend to stay traditional.

According Ptolemy (and then the Middle Ages and Renaissance) Venus and Mars, corrupted by Saturn incline to sexual vice, let us call like that. If Mercury beholds too it makes public the scandal.

About stars, traditional authors consider the "passionate" ones listed at the end of a chapter known as "Anonymous of 379 AD" used as standard in all the following literature. Of Aries in this list are considered the stars of the foreparts (eta and theta) and the ones of the hind parts, not Hamal.

Now I did not check where these stars are in this chart still planets distribution is quite enough for me.

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

margherita wrote:
This is not the traditional section, anyway I tend to stay traditional.


Im tradional, to a certain extent;
For this reason, that points are important for me Wink

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 12:40 pm    Post subject: Firdar Reply with quote

How telling the Jupiter-Saturn Firdar is:

From Rob Hand's website:

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Jupiter-Saturn. He will give of his own to the poor; his brothers, friends, comrades will shun him, they will become his enemies, and they will do to him what evil they can; and some of those near to him will make journeys; fear will happen to the native because of the king, and from this cause and [also] by reason of his children he will have injury to his substance, and they will despise him; if he lends from his substance, he will not recover it, or if he does recover it, [it will be] with effort, and after one year.



Jupiter is the 6th lord in 7th- sex with a servant/maid
and Saturn is the 7th and 8th lord in 2nd.

The next Firdar is of Mars-Mars Apr 25,2012 to Apr 25, 2013


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Mars-Mars. He will be an evil-doer and thief; hardships will happen to him, and great, long legal conflicts; his enemies will be moved against him, they will do evil to him, they will damage his status with regard to kings and great men; troubles will happen to him because of his parents; he will escape from all of this; fear and great impediment from wolves, fire, the sword, water, winds, medicines, or thieves will happen to him. And if he sows any seed, it will be harmed by water; he will make long journeys; he will become ill from a swelling of the head or in his eyes, or stomach ache, and for him this can last for twenty days; he will employ much medicine on account of it. And if [the natal] Mars in this [period] is in the term of Jupiter or Venus, it signifies that the impediment will come to him from his enemies and that he will escape from it.



Mars is in terms of Saturn- but this part relates to the escaping from diseases.

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, as we are putting traditional approach in this thread, here comes some more:

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DSK just became 62; that means he is in a 3d sign profection-year. Using whole sign-houses, Venus is the Lady of the Year, and in the natal chart she resides strongly in Taurus/10th sign, but hidden a bit by combustion (a woman makes for world-reknown yet remains hidden by the powerful man?).
Saturn, natally on Regulus in the second (by division; this shows his enormous power with respect to money!) is profected to the cusp of the 4th sign, the end of all, the grave (prison?).
Profected Sun, ruler of the asc and placed in the 10th natally, now resides in the 12th of imprisonment, hidden enemies, self-demise. Profected MC as well lands in the 12th.
Jupiter, natal L5 and 8, placed on descendant, is profected to the Moon in the 9th sign (and by division) (hidden pleasures brought out by a foreign woman or abroad).
Venus, LoY, is in the solar revolution in her exile in Aries and straddling the 10th cusp of reknown and honour...
But as the profected PoF is on natal Saturn and Saturn is in sect, I don't think too much harm will come to him!
True, he has resigned from the IMF, but the French - whose president he wants to become - don't seem to care too much about the affair...
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do you see the exquisitely acute social ironies in the chart -- the strange relationship between talk (political stance & rhetoric -- quasi socialist) and walk (his apparent oppression of the proletariat w/in his power)

I am impressed with your nuanced reading w/Cardano's principles ... and have downloaded his aphorisms.

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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Reply with quote

SGFoxe wrote:
Talk about high comedy ... a French farce, chambermaid and all, to follow the Dreyfus tragedy, in perfect form Moliere would love as well as Marx (elbow nudge -- things occur 2x in history, tragedy and farce)

Wikipedia birthdate ... April 25, 1949 -- Mars & Moon in Aries in the sixth (my 'intuitive' rectification) moon the chambermaid ... late libra rising, the part I like best is where the NYTimes report says

"Leaders of the Socialist party pleaded with the public to withhold judgment until more facts emerged about his arrest in connection with the alleged sexual attack of a maid at a Manhattan hotel Saturday afternoon." ...

Nothing funnier than see an Official Socialist oppressing the (international)working class.

Is dubbing him The World's Biggest Putz a bridge too far?


I am not sure what to think of this to be honest! it will all become clear but how did he think he could get away with this and why would you do such a thing so near to the really important presidential election next year?!
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Case against Strauss-Kahn near collapse, reports say
The credibility of the accuser is under scrutiny, sources say
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43600818/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Just as a Solar Eclipse is about to take place in his natal 12th house square his Mc, and transit Jupiter conjoins his natal Sun (lord Asc in the 10th) to the minute...the case against him is about to collapse.

Gobsmacked
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't only MSNBC and the left saying it either:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/06/how-do-you-say-duke-lacrosse-in-french-dominique-strauss-kahn/

Note however, it may be that the case is falling apart not because there is evidence that he is innocent, but because his accuser has repeatedly lied to police and her credibility is in tatters. Without her as a credible witness, there is no case.
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom wrote:
It isn't only MSNBC and the left saying it either:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/06/how-do-you-say-duke-lacrosse-in-french-dominique-strauss-kahn/

Note however, it may be that the case is falling apart not because there is evidence that he is innocent, but because his accuser has repeatedly lied to police and her credibility is in tatters. Without her as a credible witness, there is no case.


I've often wonderd about this sort of thing.

Strauss-Khan was making noises about laying off of the African nations in regards to the IMF's constant pillaging of them and if they continue to do it, there won't be anything left to go for.

Coincidentally, he gets arrested for a sex-attack and a new head is appointed.

Would a set-up be shown in a mundane chart? I'm not giving an opinion on this particular case, but set-ups and secret collusion are bread and butter of politics throughout history.

Pretty much every politician is a professional liar, yet is that present in their natal chart? I love astrology and I think it works so well in most things but this sort of thing makes me wonder a little.
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