skyscript.co.uk
   

home articles forum events
glossary horary quiz consultations links more

Read this before using the forum
Register
FAQ
Search
View memberlist
View/edit your user profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
Recent additions:
Can assassinations be prevented? by Elsbeth Ebertin
translated by Jenn Zahrt PhD
A Guide to Interpreting The Great American Eclipse
by Wade Caves
The Astrology of Depression
by Judith Hill
Understanding the mean conjunctions of the Jupiter-Saturn cycle
by Benjamin Dykes
Understanding the zodiac: and why there really ARE 12 signs of the zodiac, not 13
by Deborah Houlding

Skyscript Astrology Forum

Which part of children did Abu Ali Al Khayyat used?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Traditional (& Ancient) Techniques
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
AstroMarie



Joined: 02 Jun 2017
Posts: 21

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:42 pm    Post subject: Which part of children did Abu Ali Al Khayyat used? Reply with quote

Hello,

I'm reading his book "The Judgments of Nativities" and there are some chapters related to children and he mainly uses some part of children which he doesn't explain how to count throughout his book.

I know that most authors of ellenistic period used this part counted in different ways, so I have no idea which one did use Abu Ali ...

I have a PDF file with arabic parts listed, and there are 4 of them which arabs used

Children Asc + Saturn - Jupiter (Day)
Children Asc + Jupiter - Saturn (Night)

Children (Time, Number,
& Sexes of) Asc + Jupiter - Mars

Children, Female Asc + Venus - Moon


Children, Male I Asc + Jupiter - Moon (Day)
Children, Male II Asc + Moon - Jupiter (Night)

I only may assume it's definitely not the one used for females or males only,but there are still 2 versions left...

Help me pls! Very Happy

PS. He also has a very intresting predictive technique with the use of this part and solar revolution: "And when in the revolution of years Jupiter or Venus comes to the place of the Part of Children or aspects it by square or opposition, it signifies that he will have children at that time.
(Jupiter has a greater signification forchildren than does Venus.)"

Has anyone used it? Does it work with this mysterious part?
_________________
It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live.
Marcus Aurelius
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Konrad



Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Posts: 682

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am no expert on Abu Ali, but the lot that you use to time children is the Jupiter/Mars lot. If I remember correctly, the technique comes from Dorotheus.
_________________
http://www.esmaraldaastrology.wordpress.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
AstroMarie



Joined: 02 Jun 2017
Posts: 21

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konrad wrote:
I am no expert on Abu Ali, but the lot that you use to time children is the Jupiter/Mars lot. If I remember correctly, the technique comes from Dorotheus.


Thank you very much! Now I feel more confident! I also thought it could be this particular lot, since Dorotheus has a similar predictive technique,but using only transits instead of solar revolutions...
_________________
It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live.
Marcus Aurelius
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Traditional (& Ancient) Techniques All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
. Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

       
Contact Deborah Houlding  | terms and conditions  
All rights on all text and images reserved. Reproduction by any means is not permitted without the express
agreement of Deborah Houlding or in the case of articles by guest astrologers, the copyright owner indictated