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Donald Trump (in 2018)
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sabumnim



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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

james_m wrote:
rocko, sab -





i think things are going to get much more difficult for trump when saturn moves into the later part of capricorn and opposes his venus/saturn conjunction... there is so much going on into 2020 and trumps chart certainly messes with the dynamics of all that for better or worse...

cheers james


James,

I agree with Rocko that more predictions need to be made on this site, so can you please provide some more for us ? You tend to be long on criticisms and short on predictions.

Will Trump get impeached by 2020, for example ? What say you, on that. We all know that transiting Saturn opposite his natal Venus and Saturn is difficult, but so what ? What does it lead to ?

I agree that 2020 will be a very difficult year for Trump. So, what you are saying, though, is that he will complete his term as President, but will finish, limping, and beat up ?

I still predict a one term president.

I also predict that Trump will continue to misuse his powers of authority. For example, if Jared Kushner gets convicted and goes to prison, Trump will pardon his son in law, I predict, or any of his family involved with wrong-doing.

Presidents are not supposed to do that, but Trump will cross that line.

I also predict that special prosecutor Robert Mueller will continue to be a nemesis for Trump.

However, the synastric ties between the two men are complex.

Mueller has his natal Saturn conjunct Trump's Mercury. That aspect is like "pin the tail on the donkey !" And Trump's rear end is what gets nailed ?

However, Trump has his natal Saturn conjunct Mueller's natal north node. That could suggest the ultimate firing of Mueller, if and when, the flames get too hot.

However, what happens, then, is a general public lack of confidence in Trump that leads to him either quitting, or being so disgraceful to the office that he has no option but to leave. We saw this happen with Richard Nixon, and it could well happen to Trump, as well.

Meanwhile, it is fascinating that all of the players in Trump's life have the natal Moon in Pisces, such as Hope Hicks, Reince Preibus, his chief of staff, the son in law, and last, but not least, Robert Mueller, himself. (he might have Moon in Aries).

None of you have made mention of that, yet.

Is the reason for that because politics is such a scummy business and Neptune like, that Neptune like people must inevitably come to the surface.

I'll say this about natal Moon and Neptune, NOT a barrel of laughs, HARDLY a joyful time.





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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just been doing some secondary Analysis under what I've written in the Stock Markets in 2018 and noticed some interesting conflicts around Easter and then toward the end of April as Mars conjoins SR Pluto on the 26th.

Both under Filling Moons. But it is the Node approaching Trumpy's Pluto too late April that interests me and I saw this article suggesting he is sort of making a Last Stand ...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/tough-times-trump-goes-alone-053735206--politics.html

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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember with Mark trying to get a discussion going on what a transiting Node might bring to an individual or to the World.

Still very hard to "catch" it in action.

However, I think Trump will be feeling the movement of the Node towards his n.Pluto, around 10° Leo.

Also the transiting Node is crossing the Eclipse Point around 11°30'.

Two Women have come forward about affairs with him and are trying have their silence clauses from the pay offs they received removed.

I don't thin it is going to be pretty reading and we've got all the way till the end of April for it to develop.

Pluto in Leo ? Well they are the generation born during WWII till around 1957 ?

My experience of these types is that they feel entitled and hate people who don't respect them.

The North Node is said to be Saturn like. I don't think Trumpy will be enjoying this time and he may take his eye off other things like the Markets.

When they go down as they seem to be now he tries to talk them up.

I hear Mueller may be looking into money laundering to do with Trumpy's business affairs.

Poor Old Donald maybe it is all beginning to go wrong.

What dah you think ?

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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:02 pm    Post subject: world events and others Reply with quote

I think with Trump's head lawyer resigning, it does not look good. The only positive thing is that if Trump is in legal fights, he probably cannot start a war.
The nodes going over his 12th house pluto is not good, and saturn is negatively aspecting his mercury. AMY
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trumpy has appointed John Bolton to his team as National Security Advisor.

Why ?

I'm interested in how the t.Mars clash to t.Saturn will play out and how you'd model it on a n.chart. What you'd be looking for ?

Well spotted Amy.

Donald's looks like one. At midnight UK on the 2nd April, 00:00hrs t.Saturn is at 8°56', just passed the exact opposition to Trump's Mercury, at 08°51'.

On the 2nd April the pressure is just coming off when along comes "bottled up" t.Mars and opposes his already weakened n.Mercury.

Remember he is a Gemini.

Some sort of Sucker Punch ?

Apart from weakening Trumpy in the run up, what role does t.Saturn play to t.Mars ?

Ok two malefics ? Mars even more angry than usual. More likely to pick a fight ?

Clearly his n.Pluto gets the one two too, but for it it is the two one. Saturn softens up, Mars smashes, and then Saturn still has 1° left to finish him off, but Saturn turns retro before the n.10°03' exact point.

Of course you've got to think Capricorn too. Mars in Capricorn ? A Sargent at Arms figure ?

After all that the Node continues toward his n.Pluto.

All the while Uranus in trine to his Eclipse Point / Asc is encouraging him to do wacky things.

We may see more Heads Roll ?

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may well get worse for Trump, I predict.

When SP Moon in Leo conjoins his natal Pluto, in his natal 12th house, that is when the fur will really fly. A major secret is exposed, involving a woman. Another tense moment will be SP Moon = his natal Mars in Leo.

The Vedic astrologer that I quoted, a few weeks ago, also predicted that his daughter, Ivanka, and his Vice-President, Pence, will assume prominent roles during the balance of his administration.

This is already happening.

Trump sent his daughter, Ivanka, to the recent Winter Olympics in South Korea, perhaps as a litmus test for future diplomacy in the region?

No one has previously seen a family member of the President intervene in Far Eastern affairs, on behalf of the U.S. president, and no family member has been allowed to powerfully manage the country, ever, and certainly no first daughter has.

That said, Nancy Reagan pretty much ran the United States, say insiders, when her then husband, President Ronald Reagan, developed Alzheimers disease while in office and started to eventually go bonkers.

So, we do have a precedent for powerful women "taking over" the U.S. Presidency.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ivanka Trump is given a role in the upcoming nuclear arms talks in May with North Korea's Kim Jong Un.
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That said, Nancy Reagan pretty much ran the United States, say insiders, when her then husband, President Ronald Reagan, developed Alzheimers disease while in office and started to eventually go bonkers.


Don't you really mean George Bush senior?
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Astrologically Trump is under the cosh.

Mars and Saturn are at his Ruling Planet Mercury now, and his n.Pluto too.

There is an Eclipse Point nearby, and the Node moves from that to his n.Pluto late April.

That is a lot of strain.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/porn-star-will-bring-donald-trump-142605319.html

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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile back in Our Gangster Movie ...

I'm afraid The Donald is still back against the Wall with the Unknown Gangster or Gangsters pressing their forearms to the Donald's throat and knee to his groin.

All this peaks late April, though he really is under Strain now as Saturn is SR right opposite his Ruler Mercury.

I'd think he'll really hating Mueller's investigation.

Finally, on around the end of April or the first days of May The Node crosses his Pluto. THIS COULD BE JUDGEMENT DAY.

I wouldn't even like to think how -VE a day that could be for Trumpy, and worse still the Moon is Full in Scorpio, right on top of r.Jupiter.

r.Jupiter has been Spilling the Beans this year and that means a whole lot of light will be thrown on it and more Beans' Spilling.

Ooooooooh sticky and messy.

Cleverer people than me here can link his Pluto being "Noded" whilst the Moon throws light into this Scorpio 4th.

That sort of does point to Full Disclosure.

Ex FBI Director Comey is releasing his book. Basically saying some very very nasty things about Trumpy.

Just to repeat the Astrology. Saturn is turning retro right over Trump's Ruler Mercury in opposition. NOT NICE. SLOW AND PAINFUL.

Probably more seriously The Node is re-activating the January Eclipse near Trumpy's Pluto, and then continues over his Pluto.

He'll be very glad to see May arrive.

We all have The Node crossing our n.Pluto's once every 18.5 years, even 9.25 years, but I bet significant things happened then.

My reading is that n.Pluto is desperate for Light. My reading is that The Node is like a Torch that shines dark black darkness.

I doubt anybody's n.Pluto likes to be so Eclipsed by darkness.

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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worth noting that Uranus reactivates the 21st August 2018 Eclipse Point around the 22nd-25th April. That was when Trump sensible sacked Steve Bannon.

This time Uranus isn't balanced so much by Saturn.

Further, The Node will have just crossed the January Eclipse Point around 11°36' Leo. Actually around the 17th April.

Eclipses are Heap Big Medicine.

It is all brewing up.

"Double, double, toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble' " comes to mind.

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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well The Node is crossing Trumpy's n.Pluto in the next few days.

Would it be a surprise if Mueller sprang something on him ?

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Significant time ahead ?

We are heading towards the Uranus ingress. The period 12th May till the 17th May looks full of Tension for Trump, as Uranus trines his Asc, and Mercury too, but Mars in square to those planets.

But in inconjunction to his Asc. And to his n.Mars and the Aug 21st 2017 Eclipse Point.

A lot of Energy passing thru his Nose ?

That's a lot of Bang for his $Buck.

The New Moon on the 12th May at 12pm is nearly exactly on this Algol/ MC too.

That'll be an odd energy, as the Sun clearly illuminates but the Moon is add it's darkest phase.

Usually a time when if "things" do happen they are big and significant.

A decision on Iran obviously isn't one for Trump's brinkmanship.

Trumpy does measure his actions and hates to see the Markets troubled. I think going after Iran could be one to far.

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking a look at this entire thread I will be pruning back some comments where it seems that general chatter rather than astrology took precedence.

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking a bit more about Trumpy.

1/ Uranus is making a powerful trine to his n.Mars/ Eclipse Point/ Asc. But equally it doesn't have so much of the stabilising energy from Saturn's trine.

Saturn applies to around 2° in early Sept, and you'd think that'll bring some really powerful and productive ideas from Trumpy. The Korean deal might even be delivered.

2/ However, t.Mars is in inconjunction to all of that. As all of the above is +VE Harmony, t.Mars is Disharmonious in inconjunction.

Inconjunctions are said to march on to the Stage, change the Play and move to a new Venue. NOT necessarily bad but very disruptive.

Further I read to day that the decision on the Iran Nuclear deal has to be made by the 12th May.

So I don't know what it is but some Destabilising Force is working on Trumpy now.

Certainly the time from the 12th to the 16th May looks volatile. Remember Mars is Translating darkness from Pluto to Uranus.

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I've risen from my cosy bed as I've heard that Trumpy will be making a decision on the Iran Nuclear deal tomorrow. That'd be from say 2pm UKT onwards 8th May thru into 9th May UKT.

I set transits for midnight on the 9th May, that'd be around 6pm Washington time 8th May.

t.Mars Translating Light from Pluto passes in inconjunction to Trumpy's n.Mars, and then of course continues over the 21st Aug 17 Eclipse Point at 28°50', and then his Ascendant at 29°34'.

t.Uranus will be at 29°38'. So Trump is under a lot of Radical Tension and external Force too.

t.Pluto is pressing to his Node too.

I think he is for the first time faced with a situation where he will loose either way. Dumping the Iran Nuclear deal will knock the Markets and he'll hate that. But with t.Pluto on his Node clearly a very powerful force is at play.

Israel ?

t.Sun is also very close to his MC meaning that the World is watching him. And the Moon is Ebbing which means the Emotion is going out of the situation but the Significance is rising.

The problem is that whatever he decides the Tension continues to rise thru till 8am UKT on the 16th May.

Pretty dam close to Trumpy's Ascendant.

And don't forget the Eclipse Point being triggered before that in a -VE way.

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