julian assange

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https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Assange,_Julian

he seems to be in the news more lately.. i was curious to look at his chart, however their is speculation on the time of day he is born... 3pm is a B rating at adb.... i have done the chart here for 3pm...

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the 3pm time is the one we have with the B rating... it has many astro characteristics that i like... 4 planets on the angles and the nodal axis also on the angle, suggesting someone who is a public figure and in the limelight, in spite of the position of sun and moon in the 8/12th house..

sun in cancer in the 8th - the sect lord, ruled by moon in scorpio in the 12th and he remains in prison essentially, with no sign of being let out... now, equador - whether under pressure from the usa/uk and poodles, or whatever? is finding it difficult to continue in the present way... perhaps new leadership in equador is part of it..

the solar arc data is mostly a wash given everything is 45 itself in the 90 degree wheel... one can't rely on the most important points - the movement of the angles... in 2 years sun squares jupiter - ruler of his first house and this year continues to be a jupiter in scorpio year - which is where it is in his chart... things look more positive as transit jupiter gets to the natal position of jupiter and perhaps if the 3pm time is close - to his ascendant...

profection year this year starting at his birthday in july is a 12th house scorpio one using the 3pm sag rising chart... mars in the solar return is at 9 aquarius in the 11th, with it ruling the solar return aries ascendant.. it squares onto his natal moon - not in itself a bad thing, but might be greater agitation to move... i believe julian has a child as memory serves.. i note chiron in the 5th sign aries, so it is making a return this coming year or so.. i wonder if a desire to connect with his son is a factor that might influence him here? i doubt julian is going to step outside the equador embassy, but it is always possible... by 2020 the swedish legal limbo will be over.. at that point if he is still in the embassy, perhaps it will define the big change.. that goes with solar arc mars opp natal uranus - 2-3 years as well as the sa square sun - 2 years..

2019 looks like a better year for him, especially looking at the solar return chart, using 3pm.. it will also coincide with sag / jupiter profection year.. perhaps his freedom lies closer to 1 -2 years away..

i wonder how much the skripal / cambridge analytica info that wikileaks has shared have anything to do with the timing of his internet connection being cut off... it would seem that there is a concerted effort to keep him silent, in spite of the wikileak revelations that the usa/uk have been consciously suppressing any talk on novichoks with the opcw organization at least as far back as 2006... then you have cambridge analytica parent company scl with connections right up to the british royalty and aside from it looking like the uk, (much more then russia) stole the usa's election, we have the continued witch hunt on russia, thanks the skripal event with everything top secret around this - russia being guilty until proven innocent and the uk stonewalling any questions that russia has asked of them, france and the opcw... hopefully some answers will be forth coming.. i can't help think there are some important connections in all of this back to wikileaks/assange..

back to assange chart... venus is generally favourably placed in the 3pm birth time chart... solar return venus is conjunct the 3pm midheaven... it is also opposite natal mars at 21 aquarius..

i suspect assange walks free within 3 years, but the amount of hatred the media, cia usa/uk/sweden and etc have managed to stir up on him has been a very successful character assassination either way... while it might not seem orchestrated, but comes across as a very orchestrated dynamic, much like the 'russia did it' dynamic over the skripal affair... it would seem, aside from the propaganda war going on, every effort is continuing to be made on the silencing of wikileaks and all it has revealed on the dark underbelly of our world at present... like or hate assange, he has paved the way for a number of other whistleblowers like chelsea manning and edward snowden... from my own point of view he is a hero that will be remembered long after many others are forgotten..

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Interesting stuff, that I didn't know. I just get the feeling that some sort of huge Smoke Screen is being blown across our faces.

I remember when De Mendez was shot on the Tube, the next day all sorts of slanderous facts appeared about him.

A real hatch job, which was ONLY put right years later in Court, by which time of course the majority had moved on.

I hadn't heard anything about Wikileaks and Novichok.

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there is a buzz about julian assange walking from the equador embassy in the uk.. here is one quote ": “My sources tell me that Julian Assange will be handed over to the UK in the next weeks or days. "

https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/07/br ... -imminent/

i don't know if i articulated it properly in the original post here, but i have 3 birth times for julian... the one i used up top is one of 3.. i tend to think it is the best one for him, but i could be wrong.. let me know if you want the other times for him..

what we see off this particular chart though is the midheaven at 19 leo 57 - very close to the solar eclipse at 18 leo.. so, the idea that one's position will be further eclipsed does make sense here.. and one can note the position of julians north node/mars is essentially opposite where the upcoming solar eclipse is.. so, i think there is some real merit to the speculation on julian assange here..

the usa/uk as the 2 prime warmongering nations certainly do have an axe to grind with someone responsible for publishing the dirty deeds they were involved in via bradley ( chelsea) manning and etc. etc.. .if anyone wanted to have him and wikileaks shut down and for julian to rot in hell or worse - it would be the uk/usa... the law is a joke with these countries.. it is all about power and nothing about justice of democracy.. that is a complete facade as expressed by the uk and usa in particular..

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It is pretty much impossible to say given unknown birth info. If he is 47, he just entered a 12th house profection and the 12th rules incarceration, and that is all we really know, besides the general planetary placements and aspects. If he has the Mars ruled 12th and has those transits going on with a Mars return with the south node, then all of that seems rather likely he will be imprisoned and regardless of house placement, such a return should indicate something (one of my sisters is going through something similar and just quit her job with no backup - hers is 2nd house and she didn't listen to advice). For certain and for how long seems iffy. If I really cared I would probably ask a horary.

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https://www.rt.com/news/433918-ecuador- ... k-assange/
the july 22-26 visit is in the eclipse window of time..

thanks tanit,

i had read the book - autobiography on julian.. i can't remember for the basis of the 3pm chart.. i am going to look up adb right now to see the source notes they give.. it is indeed how i recall - from his autobiography.. https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Assange,_Julian

i like how to use the 12 year cycle and get at the profection year! very good!

in the solar arc data - the sun-uranus square has moved along to where it is activating the same sun-uranus square by solar arc.. uranus rules the 4th - or not but sun in cancer in square to uranus might imply a change in residence here... the jupiter return happens late this year - a bit prior to his 48th birthday... this is another way of thinking of the 12 year profection cycle - as a jupiter cycle - given the fact it is the same approx 12 year cycle.. jupiter transiting it's own place, which with the 3pm time - also includes the ascendant in early sag - would be a very fortuitous transit and return in itself.. actually his jupiter is in late scorpio and it's return is on oct 27th this year... the transit of jupiter to his ascendant is shortly thereafter...

i do believe regardless of his time of birth, the eclipse cycle on the mars/south node conjunction is important here and again - using the 3pm time this mars/south node is in the 4th house.. i think this is fitting given his isolation in the equador embassy in the uk and the fact the uk seems especially hostile to him - that 4th house mars seems fitting..

also, using the 3pm time, i note the solar return for july 2nd has sun in the 4th house in opposition to saturn/midheaven conjunction at 5 cap - so again - the theme of home - 4th house - in a very challenged place here with the opposition to saturn/midheaven in cap.. incidentally - the uk is very much a capricorn ruled country, so that is fitting as well..

we'll see how it shakes out here..

solar return off the 3pm time back to birthplace directly below.
.. fwiw - the sr 2018 angles using london are 27 libra rising with 6 leo on the midheaven - south node/mars conjunction is placed in the 4th, as it is in the 3pm chart for his birth..

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julian assange has been escorted from the equador embassy, thanks the subservience of lenin moreno - the equador president at present - march 19 1953 birthdate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len%C3%ADn_Moreno ).. it would seem equador agreed to an imf loan with this as part of the condition.. funny how the imf acts as front for the us banking system and yet has this international look to it - clearly a nice facade, if nothing else..

i had been looking at lunar returns very recently for assange and did find of the 3 tentative birth times for him, the 3pm seemed the best...both malefics are on the angles, so not an easy chart by any means.. below is a chart of the current lunar return off the 3pm time..

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this morning at 1053am julian was "further arrested on behalf of the United States authorities, at 10:53hrs after his arrival at a central London police station. This is an extradition warrant under Section 73 of the Extradition Act."

the chart below is shown for this time and event.. as you can see this chart shares much with the lunar return chart immediately above.. and fwiw - the ascendant in this chart exactly replicate the ascendant in the solar arc direction - 17 capricorn, with solar arc saturn at 17 cancer...
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James, thanks for this thread, I realised that I have no idea really what is going on here, and how influenced I am by the media. I did once listen to a video of Julian Assange himself speaking, and he seemed very genuine. Donald Trump could appreciate Assange's amazing timing of showing Hillary Clinton for what she is. I was interested what you said about the International Monetary Fund making it a condition of a loan for Ecuador to kick Assange out of its embassy. There is obviously a lot going on here that the media covers up or fails to report.

Just a hypothesis that Julian Assange could have been born at about 2.45pm, as the time of birth given is rounded up to the hour. I don't think he has Saturn as close to a chart angle as the exact 3pm birth time would give, and I think his fame indicates the Moon's Nodes within one degree of a chart angle. The antiscion of his IsisTranspluto is 15 degrees Taurus 48 minutes, which squares the Midheaven IC axis, and aspects his Moon's Nodes, showing his support from the rich and famous.
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hi fleur,

thanks! the 3pm time is likely off by a couple of minutes, or more.. it would be nice to have a more specific time for him.. it is possible what you offer is more accurate.. i haven't made any serious study of his chart.. it is tedious work.. but, i do feel the 3pm time is not bad based on the results from the lunar returns here...

about the imf loan.. as i understand it, it was contingent on kicking assange out of the equador embassy.. i have no article to substantiate this and it is unlikely there will ever be one, as it casts a pale light on the imf and the way that the imf is used like a batting ram to manipulate what are supposed to be sovereign nations into all sorts of draconian means of getting what they want from less economically powerful countries..

you might enjoy craig murrays website if you are not familiar with him.. he is uk based and i think a very good man and journalist covering many of the details around assange..
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... -trembles/

added april 13th -
https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/20 ... or-ecuador

loans from the IMF are like peanut butter in a mouse trap. the usa is in control of the IMF..

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People, please.

The recently released Mueller Report confirmed what mainstream journalists had already determined: that WikiLeaks collaborated with Russian operatives to dump emails intended to swing the 2016 presidential election in favour of Donald Trump.

This was done twice: Clinton campaign manager John Podesta's emails were dumped on the same day that the Access Hollywood tape surfaced, of Trump boasting about essentially sexually assaulting women. This email dump was intended to change the news cycle away from Trump's snafu. Russians also passed along hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks, which dumped them under its own imprimatur in the summer of 2016, just before the DNC national convention.

Vladimir Putin is on record as supporting Trump. Strangely enough, there were no WikiLeaks dumps of Republican emails, even though the Mueller team since found many of questionable virtue.

Whether one loves or hates Hilary Clinton or Donald Trump, no one who cares about the integrity of fair democratic elections should be praising Assange and WikiLeaks for cooperating with Russian spies to sway the 2016 election.

(And sorry, Bernie supporters: he just didn't have the delegates. He was seen by many loyal Democratic campaign workers as a carpet bagger who switched from being an Independent to a Democrat when he realized he'd do better with their large political party apparatus than he would by his lonesome. Having convinced many of his supporters that Clinton was a corporate shill, we also have Sanders to thank for Donald Trump's election.)

It's interesting that with the 3:00 birth time, Assange's moon in the 12th house. His earlier house arrest in Britain and nearly 7 years in the Ecuadoran embassy were entirely voluntary on his part. (This had nothing to do with imprisonment of a courageous journalist, but was because Assange was facing rape charges in Sweden.) The 12th house rules imprisonment and other people who are shut-in in some way. Such as hackers, who work in secret sleuthing for secrets-- another 12th house matter.

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sorry waybread, but we will have to agree to disagree.. much of the msm would like to use assange as a punching bag while ignoring the war crimes, torture and etc the usa is still not being held responsible for and which wikileaks revealed... i'll side with david.. you're welcome to side with goliath here... as for the ''russia done it meme'' that has been pushed endlessly, too bad there is no proof and proof was not sought in any of it either... see links if you are still open to a different viewpoint.. too many of your non astrological comments are strewn with factual errors for me to comment on all of them.. and although it is conceivable to make political commentary on astrological threads, i would prefer not to continue with this non astrological conversation.. please don't add to it here.. if you have something astrological to say - fine.. if you want to talk politics - pm me.. thanks..

read this https://consortiumnews.com/2019/04/16/v ... w-assange/

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_sem ... ry-jo.html

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james, I would recommend that you read more broadly, both history and current events.

I don't know about you, but I routinely follow 5 different news apps from different countries and political persuasions. I normally watch 2-3 evening news programs, along with NPR. When a topic interests me, like the Assange case, I go after whatever information I can find. This news diet doesn't necessarily make me correct, but I think it gives me a broader perspective than the alt-right and -left obtain from shunning the mainstream media in the belief that it is corrupt.

(I probably should have been born a Gemini-- but I'm an Aquarian, thank God.)

I don't think the WikiLeaks fans are aware of how much of their leaked "news" was actually already known, and so publicized, by the mainstream press. The 2007 Baghdad air strike was an obvious example, as two Reuters staff members were killed in it. Much of the WikiLeaks "news", if not known, could be readily inferred by anyone who follows various organizations, like how the Democratic National Committee operates.

Surely the US government has had blood on its hands since its inception. I could give you many examples.

But it's not like Canada's record is squeaky-clean. Perhaps we could start with dispossession of First Nations and the appalling record of their residential schools.

And fair is fair. (Any Libras out there?)

Do you want to talk about China's record in Tibet, Mongolia, and with its minorities like the Uyghars? Remember how the USSR gobbled up eastern Europe? It's now fighting in eastern Ukraine. Russia has no freedom of expression and tends to murder political dissidents and outspoken journalists. Or maybe we could talk about Saudi Arabia's oppression of women and its humanitarian crisis in Yeman. Or we could talk about ISIS and similar military organizations with genocidal programs against minorities like the Yazidis. Burma (Myanmar) and the Rohinga?

If you want to single out the US and be an America-hater, that's your prerogative. But that is really what your argument is about.

Also Julian Assange's. With his Cancer sun closely conjunct the sun of the US Sibly chart, Assange has a kind of destiny involved with the United States. With Saturn in the 7th house of open enemies opposite his ascendant, Assange probably needs to construct an evil enemy to combat. The ascendant is one of the "me" points in the chart, and the 7th can symbolize the Other.

I note that Saturn rules hatred and fear. With his fear of extradition, Assange has concocted a fearful narrative about his likely fate in US custody.

There certainly is proof of Russia meddling in the 2016 US election. It's just that Assange's fans won't admit it, because it would tarnish Assange's reputation.

But suppose I take your point about the lack of Russian collaboration, for the sake of argument.

Even so, as a Canadian, I doubt that you'd be thrilled about a foreign national dumping your own political party's emails in order to sway Canada's next election in favor of right-wing Conservatives. You would still find this unacceptable.

Sadly, James, we live in a dirty, imperfect world. And Julian Assange has done nothing to somehow bring the United States to atone for its sins. He's just made the government more security conscious.

Take a look sometime at his 7H chart. It's very powerful, with a giant grand cross in it. Assange seems motivated to be the true visionary, but is hampered by too many internal stressors.

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I am mindful of the need to stick to the astrology, but the facts-- insofar as they are known-- about such a controversial figure as Julian Assange, bear on how one interprets his nativity. Is he a free speech hero? Scoundrel? Neither or both?

I find this to be a problem in general in mundane political discussions as well as controversial figures. See this discussion at Astrodienst: https://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1552514935

I'll offer some detailed astrology in my next post, but I just wanted to quickly post this link to a New Yorker article re: Assange's alleged collaboration with Russian operatives. It's a counter to James' most interesting links, in arguing that the DNC emails first went through multiple channels, in the hope of erasing Russian fingerprints on the documents before they were dumped.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des ... -it-doesnt