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AJ



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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:28 am    Post subject: Chris Watts birth data Reply with quote

Hey: Does anyone have the birth time for Chris Watts?
The Colorado fella who killed his wife and 2 daughters.

Couldn't find any data on any online search. Of course, there are a few sunrise charts. Astro databank had nothing. His family told me to toss off.
Any leads would be appreciated.
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Tanit3333



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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a legal affidavit that lists his DOB as 5/16/85. If you Google the affidavit you will find his DOB and I think his wife's was on there. No idea of place or time of birth, but it would be accurate for date. I don't know much about the case but he sounds like a narcissistic sociopath. Figuring out time of birth might not be that hard if you have a lot of info on him (based on his life you might draw ideas of where the planets make the most sense).

He has Sun conjunct Algol opposite Saturn in Scorpio, so my guess is that influences the 7th house. They are pretty close to the nodes too. Since he is a fairly "pretty" man, my guess is Venus in Aries rules his chart, but I could be wrong. He has the typical blondish, sunkissed, active, energetic and attractive appearance I associate with Venus in Aries influencing appearance heavily.
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Tanit: I did find the day of birth earlier, but was looking for a documented time of birth. So, far I haven't had any success with a documented source. You are right, it is very possible to rectify but there is always the element of the educated guess going wrong in any rectification. The proof in a rectified chart is in making successful predictions from it. In prison, short of a fellow inmate "shiving" him or health, there is not a lot of things that I could confirm it against.
Mostly I would like to add his case to my research portfolio and a documented TOB is required in this case. Maybe a TOB would surface eventually. Thought of writing him in prison in a year or two after the media exposure died down. All he could say is no.
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that American birth certificates have the time of birth and are public information?

Astro data bank often collect these, and they try where possible to use AA data from birth certificates.

Just after noon on 16th May 1985 there would be an exact Moon Venus conjunction in 13.5 degrees Aries.

Transiting Neptune in 16.5 degrees Pisces was opposition his Venus' antiscion at 16.5 degrees Virgo. Often the transits to these perpetrators charts are crystal clear at the moment of their crime, such as those to the chart of Vincent Tabak, born 10th February 1978, who murdered Joanna Yeates in Bristol, England on 17th December 2010 as Neptune and Chiron were exactly hitting his natal Venus.

The newspapers say this happened in August but I can't find a precise date. They look like such a beautiful family.
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AJ - that is interesting you do research on these types of cases. I knew one that hit home recently. One of my family members is an acquaintance. He had planned on killing his wife also, but didn't go through with it. His was a different motive, though (serious financial strain). If anyone knows his birth info, I would be interested to see it, but in his case I think he probably mainly had a lot of emotional instability (and lack of motivation to solve problems - inside information would suggest this anyway).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/officer-money-problems-motive-for-west-sac-childrens-deaths/%3famp=1
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fleur wrote:
I thought that American birth certificates have the time of birth and are public information?

Hi Fleur: It is not that simple. There are a lot of restrictions to get a birth certificate in the US, like you must be a parent, close relative, guardian, lawyer, etc. Plus have the full name and parents names and sometimes other vital info plus a valid reason/need for the document. It's also complicated by the fact that each state has separate requirements. Some states do after death and/or a certain number of years after death make them public records.

But it shouldn't be easy in the face of so much fraud and identity theft. I mean, I wouldn't want my birth info a matter of public record.
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I thought that American birth certificates have the time of birth and are public information?


American hospital birth certificates have time of birth. Some government issued birth certificates have the time. Some do not. The regulations and practices vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. At one time it was possible to get a birth certificate by asking. Not any more.
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