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waywyrd



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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:42 pm    Post subject: Under the beams of the sun Reply with quote

Hi to all,

Apologies if this question has been answered on this forum. I am interested to know if anybody has and thoughts/ideas or come across somewhere were this has been mentioned. Regarding a planet being under the beams of the sun and then said planet then coming into its own, if it moves away from the beams of the sun within a week of birth. What happens if a planet moves, as an applying aspect, and then comes under the beams of the sun, within a week of the natal birth?

Most aspects that are mentioned imply that an applying aspect has more influence, for better or worse, than a separating aspect.
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:59 am    Post subject: Re: Under the beams of the sun Reply with quote

waywyrd wrote:
Hi to all,

Regarding a planet being under the beams of the sun and then said planet then coming into its own, if it moves away from the beams of the sun within a week of birth. What happens if a planet moves, as an applying aspect, and then comes under the beams of the sun, within a week of the natal birth?
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Hi waywyrd,

The first thing we need to know is that Sun applies to the superior planets, and inferior planets apply to the Sun (sorry if this sounds too basic for you). This is why when superior planets are in the same sign with the Sun, it is said that it is better to be in the earlier degrees of the zodiac since Sun will/may separate from them in those 7 days. If superior planets are in the following degrees after the Sun (in zodiacal order), then Sun will apply to them and hence they will enter [assuming not already being] under the Sun's beams.

For the inferior planets is contrary. If they are in direct motion, it is 'better' to be in the following degrees (occidental to the Sun in the diurnal motion), hence they will 'escape' from the Sun's beams (they are faster then the Sun).

Quote:
"You have to know that these five stars have two different arrangements in their motion: they stop in order
to retrograde after and then they stop again in order to proceed by direct motion afterwards; and each of
these arrangements has its own meaning. In truth, the star that reaches the first station, by which I mean
the station from which it will start to recede afterwards, is similar to an ill man whose strength is failing,
his vigor and energy weakened by the illness. When the star gets to its second station it is similar to a
man who has already started to recover his health and finally, when it moves by direct motion, it is like a
man recovered from an illness. Venus in particular is offended by receding: indeed, when it retrogrades,
it gets burned, that's why we have a kind of double distress: one is given by receding, the other by
burning. Mercury is also distressed when it recedes since it gets burned as well, but it is not offended by
its receding and by the fact that it is burned as much as Venus." [AbĂ» Ma'sar, Libri mysteriorum
The astrological metaphors. Italian translation by Giuseppe Bezza from Angelicus 29, fo. 62ss. Laurentianus Plut. 28, 33, fo. 123ss.
english translation by Daria Dudziak]


When inferiors are retrograding they go under the Sun's beams since then Sun is 'applying' to and catching them.

So it is not a matter of an 'aspect' or 'application' as it is a matter of what is done by that application. The result is non visibility, 'burning' of the planet and hence distressing its nature and significations.
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