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Clues that led to the Phone being found !!
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WooWoo



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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:16 am    Post subject: Clues that led to the Phone being found !! Reply with quote

Hi Folks,

My Horary skills have long since lapsed, so I'll happily pay £25 to the (first) person who successfully solves this by telling me where to find My Mobile. And me finding it there.

Normally, I don't take my phone out with me, as it is purely a contact point. Rarely on.

This Time I decide to. Put it in my Coat Pocket I thought. And then it just disappeared !!!!

This was a few months ago.

So The Questions is "Where IS My Mobile ?"

I happened to be in the South East at the time it came to me, so I think it'll be a good question.

10:43 hrs (am) Friday 8th March 2019 .... Easier if you have this !!

H

PS I better clarify how I'd decide who is first. I'll be the sole judge and I'd take it from who posts the successful answer first on this Thread.

A bit of Fun.

"WHERE has It gone ? 11:47am


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Serene



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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May be we all can even bet on it - to add to the fun!
Lala Happy
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Tanit3333



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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Woo woo, you have two times posted. Which chart is the chart you are asking people to read? If you are not able to read charts, it makes more sense for an astrologer to create their own and there are many horary astrologers online who can help you. Typically charts are formed by the astrologer.

There is a page on missing items that you can attempt to use to read the chart yourself though, and others could comment about your reading or offer second opinions: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/wit.html
There are also loads of online examples, including this forum.

I don't think Deb (the admin) would be Ok with people publically soliciting readings for money.

You say it was lost 2 months ago, in a public setting? Would you expect the phone to even still be there? I feel like this is a question meant to challenge an astrologer or prove horary more so than solve your problem and might be a consideration against judgment. Also, a missing horary can tell you if an item is recoverable or not but does not guarantee it is even able to be found. My best friend once lost a diamond stud earring at a wedding and expected me to tell her exactly where it was. It was dropped in a huge driveway covered in gravel and would be like finding a needle in a hay stack. I was not physically present to assist, which would have been better than horary. The horary said it was not recoverable and it was not.
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Serene



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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find Woo Woo's proposition oddly amusing ! As if he could not help bringing up money and winning in the horary forum also! Sorry for that little joke. Sometimes my Mercury goes wild! Very Happy
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WooWoo



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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the GREATEST Faith in Horary, and used to be VERY GOOD At It !

I just don't have the Time just now and as I'm asking People to spend Time on this I'm offering to pay them.

I can go to an Astrologer, but how would "We" learn from that.

As to two Times. I am blessed that I do get "Good" interactions with ???? and those two times came up, but I think either would work.

I'm NOT soliciting. It'd be the other way around if I was offering to do paid work.

H
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Serene



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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WooWoo may be you can try make a little attempt yourself to read your first chart once, then someone can help you. As Tanit suggested.
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WooWoo



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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I may well do that.

H
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WooWoo



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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK so for the 10:43 am Chart the Ascendant is around 28°. I think that means that it is too late to try to solve this.

The second Chart which I feel had a stronger psychic energy shows Cancer at 12°37'.

I'd assume a Mobile would relate to Communications and the 3rd House. Mercury with a hint of Uranus.

Leo's on the 3rd with the Sun applying to r.Mercury.

That's about All I can remember.

H
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Serene



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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's your chart. I have read very few lost object horaries and dont know how much of a help i can be so lets hope someone experienced comes up to help.

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Part of Fortune



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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serene wrote:
I find Woo Woo's proposition oddly amusing ! As if he could not help bringing up money and winning in the horary forum also! Sorry for that little joke. Sometimes my Mercury goes wild! Very Happy

~~ Naughty girl! ~~ Lala Happy



Following her line of thought, I would like to take up your offer and am hoping to make a dent in your wallet (metaphorically speaking, that is Tongue Out )

But Woo Woo, if you have already found your missing mobile, please let me know so I can stop before I go deeply into "dissecting" your two charts.
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Serene



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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha yes I found WooWoo straying away from the stocks and speculation forum to horary only to bring up the money matters here as well!

Sidenote--- POF I had messaged you a long time back. Seems like you never check your PMs here Wink
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Part of Fortune



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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serene wrote:
Haha yes I found WooWoo straying away from the stocks and speculation forum to horary only to bring up the money matters here as well!

Yep, that was a good one!



Woo Woo, I just started to work on your first chart (the earlier date) and it's true, "A bit of Fun" as you said. If you can contribute more information, please do. Thanks.

Correction: It should read (the earlier time) not "date". Sorry for the confusion.
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Part of Fortune



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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Where IS My Mobile ? Reply with quote

Before I go into the reading of Woo Woo’s missing mobile phone situation, I should mention some of the facts:

a. Chart-A (10:43 a.m.) has late ascendant and Chart-B (11:47 a.m.) has Saturn in 7th house.
b. Both charts belong to the day of Venus; however, they are not radical. Chart-A shows hour of Mars and Chart-B has the Sun.


Regarding Chart-A:

Non-radical chart might be telling me that I as an astrologer need to be sensitive to “the querent’s request” because overall harmony and internal accuracy might be lacking . . . therefore the reading result and what querent expected could be different. In the chart, one section shows there is contra-antiscial between Mercury Rx, querent’s significator and Chiron in 11th house. Chiron is placed between L1 (Mercury) and L2 (the Moon). Perhaps this might be indicating a hidden opposition to querent’s hopes and wishes. Looking back, I already gave Woo Woo a wrong interpretation of what I think of “A bit of Fun” (though it’s not coming from the chart ) – sorry about that.

Although the chart is not radical (Gemini Asc., Mars rules hour), there are interesting discoveries here: The significator of the mobile phone (the Moon) is in Aries and Mars who is dispositor of the Moon in Venus (the ruler of the day). Furthermore, the twins showing up at the ascendant and querent’s significator is retrograde Mercury in Pisces which is another double sign. This could be why I’m facing not one but two charts here (64 min. apart) trying to locate querent’s mobile.

Regarding Chart-B:

Saturn in 7th house. This could mean I might make plenty of reading mistakes. Therefore, Saturn is warning me to be extra cautious. Or Saturn could be indicating forgetfulness of querent -- was his mobile misplaced rather than say falling from his coat pocket? Umm… hour agreement is Cancer at Asc. and the Sun is the lord of hour. Again, it is not a radical chart but finding Leo at the cusp of H2. Curious that Mercury Rx rules H4 of misplaced item.

So, I’m planning to use both charts (A and B), I know it sounds odd but who knows, it might work since their timings are close to each other. For instance, I was curious why Jupiter in both charts shows up at 6th house. The Sun and Jupiter are the only planets that match in both charts. The rest of the traditional planets are placed in different houses in the two charts. Then it occurred to me that Jupiter represents clothing such as a man’s coat (assuming WW is a male). Virgo represents his coat pocket; hence Jupiter is in 6th which is natural house of Virgo. As for the significator of the mobile, the Moon fits better as a commonly used item rather than the Sun which usually represents something precious such as gold (but we will see).

WooWoo wrote:

Normally, I don't take my phone out with me, as it is purely a contact point. Rarely on.

This Time I decide to. Put it in my Coat Pocket I thought. And then it just disappeared !!!!

This was a few months ago.



Chart-A:

Both Significators (the Moon and Mercury) already have applied to Jupiter by square. Between the two, the Moon to Jupiter was a more recent event than Mercury to Jupiter. The querent has been using his coat sometimes without carrying his mobile in the coat pocket, but one day he decides to . . . so far, the past aspects between the Moon and Mercury to Jupiter correspond with what querent said. He also said, “he thought.” “And then it just disappeared!” The Moon’s next application (after Jupiter) is to South Node (and Pluto). I’m not sure these two are responsible for the disappearance of his mobile (the moon) but if they are, the events happened with the Moon possibly involving 8th house.

I haven’t finished chat-A yet; there is more to come later -- but, in the meantime, here are arguments for recovery:

The Sun applying trine to Part of Fortune in H2
PoF conjunct cusp of 2nd
The Moon applying sextile to Venus (natural ruler of H2)
Querent’s significator is retrograde

Arguments against Recovery:

The Moon disposited by Mars (detriment)
Mars conjunct H12
Saturn opposition to PoF
Saturn opposition to H2 cusp
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Tanit3333



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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PoF - I noticed that both charts were not well rooted. Just a suggestion, but one alternative approach might be to create a chart for Woo Woo, since they cannot read the chart themselves (it is common to have considerations in charts where the astrologer cannot read the chart).
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Part of Fortune



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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tanit3333 wrote:
PoF - I noticed that both charts were not well rooted. Just a suggestion, but one alternative approach might be to create a chart for Woo Woo, since they cannot read the chart themselves (it is common to have considerations in charts where the astrologer cannot read the chart).


Hi Tanit,

Thanks for the suggestion – I made a chart for Woo Woo after reading your post. The chart came out not radical and early ascendant. So, for now I’ll continue with what I started, and then might try again after time passes.

Thanks again!
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