Alistair Campbell's Depression ?

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Hello,

I feel Astrologers don't do enough to help tackle Illness.

Alaistair Campbell has gone public about his problems with Depression.

I feel that gives us a good chance to examine such an issue.

Even more he states he is in search of answers to the problems he faces.

Why does he get Depressed ?

He was born in Keighley in Yorkshire on the 25th May 1957.

I'll try to find his birth time too as it is essential for this.

Chip in if you know more but Significant Others I feel is an area that needs to be dealt with ALWAYs in Natal Astrology.

I'd certainly refer him to Gauguelin's work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_effect

H

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hi woowoo,

i would like to thank tanit for articulating what she does here... astrologers are not professionals in psychology or medicine.. while an astrologer might be able to help in by sharing astro insights on timing or periods of time where the issue of depression is more pronounced, it is beyond the realm of astrologers in many other respects... and i like how tanit talked about being over zealous on certain signatures that might lead then to improperly diagnose a chart as well.. thanks tanit...

there is an article on the side panel by judith hill 'the astrology of depression' you might want to read up on.. http://skyscript.co.uk/astrology_of_depression.html

i was curious to look at campbells chart.. unfortunately there is no birth time given, so this will be a very general comment on the fellows chart.. first off - the planet saturn is most associated with depression..

here is a chart for the day he is born in sidereal set to noon his place of birth..

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leaving out the outer planets one can see that saturn sits alone on one side of the chart... it is in 150 degree aspects to mercury and mars forming what is called a yod in modern astrology... in fact - saturn is at the midpoint of mercury-mars... at the same time saturn is in opposition to his sun-venus combo in taurus.. all of these astro factors - without even knowing what specific time he is born to know the degree of his moon, or the house position of all the planets, still show a chart tied up with saturn in challenging aspects to important points in his chart.. it would be good to know the time of his birth to know just how close the transit of saturn is to his moon at present, or to what motivated him to come out publicly at this time and want to talk about it.. without a birth time there is a lot less to go off of..

thanks for sharing..

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Hi Folks,

I'm trying to contact Mr Campbell to get his Time of Birth. Hard without that.

If he engages then I might try to get the DOBs of his Parents and Siblings.

I feel understanding the Angsts or Joys Significant Others add to our Charts isn't often looked into carefully.

Hard to get all the data sometimes I know.

Tan you seem to specialise in Besiegements.

I used to understand that they were pretty simple and usually between Mars and Saturn in the same Sign.

Sort of thing people miss along with Intercepted Signs and Combustions.

Would you be kind enough to share your approach and what you are looking out for ?

Cheers,

H

PS I had Theresa's departure at 3am Thursday 6th June UKT.

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great comments tanit... thanks... it seems that you have altered some of what you said from a day or two ago as i recall you talking about your parents - dad - when i last looked at this post.. it is all okay.. i appreciate your insights and all you have to share! thanks..

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tanit,

i have been reading about yogas in indian astrology.. i have a book called 300 important combinations by b.v. raman.. i can't find the yoga since reading it in this book where the moon is connected to rahu - the north node, in the same sign and also with saturn... basically in itself it is associated with mental health problems.. i imagine the closer the aspects, the more severe the situation... it can probably be offset by benefics tied into it as well.. perhaps other factors like - waning, verses waxing moon, nocturnal verses diurnal and on and on can be factored in as well.. essentially though from my reading of indian astro lit, the moon is very much associated with the mind, perhaps even more then mercury is..

as for the nodes - they are a bit of a mystery and any mystery is viewed differently by others.. until the mystery is unraveled, they seem to be generally viewed in a malefic way, but i don't think this is a correct read on them.. i think it is a lot more nuanced, but i am not able to provide much insight more then this.. i am sorry to hear of the challenges your dad has faced and the challenges you must have faced living in this type of environment growing up.. it may have been a blessing in disguise too.. good fortune often leans on bad and vice versa..

http://wengu.tartarie.com/wg/wengu.php? ... jing&no=58

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tanit,

thanks for sharing the astro data on your dads chart and the time of the motorcycle accident..

in indian astrology, there are different schools, but for example some of the schools pay more attention to aspects and exactitude then others... so these yogas - planetary combinations in a certain set up - are very open to interpretation and speculation.. hindsight is 20/20, lol... although, i was unable to find the yoga that i mentioned which also includes saturn - here is one that is similar, but not the same... as you can see from the charts - degrees are not considered... however the set up is in lagna - or ascendant, while your dads set up is in the descendant..

http://www.theastrojunction.com/2014/03 ... -yoga.html

prash trivedi in his book 'the rahu ketu experience has a lot to say on this conjunction, some of which i will quote.. " in its positive aspect this conjunction vitalizes the lunar energy and as a result strengthens the mind......
further down - in its negative aspect it furthers the dark side of the lunar nature which as discussed earlier furthers emotional and psychological disturbances, fear and phobias, isolation, lunacy hallucination, illusion, paranoia and other such distorted mental states.. .. nietzche has the conjunction (in the ascendant and is one example for further study.).""

if i was looking at it from the pov of western astro - my focus usually - i would note how pluto is at the midpoint of mercury-moon.. this might suggest certain mental obsessions.. another midpoint that is applying about a degree out is mercury at the saturn-mars midpoint which is kind of a critical midpoint given the importance of mercury to your dads chart... ebertin in his book the combination of stellar influences says on mercury at the mars-saturn midpoint - thoughtlessness, hopelessness - thoughts on separation, illness, death or the next world beyond.. - news of mourning and bereavement ( murderers).. of course ebertins descriptions are quite dark which might be in keeping with his world view in germany in the earlier part of the 20th century...

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This is only one observation, but I remember once looking at the chart of a man who had been diagnosed with bipolar depression, and his chart had a striking (orbs under 1 degree, hard aspects) aspect of the Sun to both Saturn and Uranus, and I remember saying to him I don't know how to interpret that.