2019 UK General Election

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For UK mundane/political astrology I tend to use equal house; refer to 1066 and 1801 root charts plus the Aries Ingress chart for the year. I check for eclipses and significant lunations [a full moon will occur before the opening of the polls on 12 Dec. with Scorpio rising- resonating with Scorpio rising in the ingress chart]

As Brexit and parliament deadlock was the reason for B.J to call the election then the Article 50 chart of 29 March 2017 may still have validity, especially as Venus ruler of the end of the matter was retrograde and Jupiter in the 4th was also retrograde [ie no resolution]. Venus and Jupiter now become the significators of the Tory party and the Election itself [see below].

I favour the ‘opening’ time of the polls as, for me, it represents an inception/beginning of an event whose seeds will fructify in the ‘end of the matter’ [horary/electional concept] i.e. the end contains the beginning and vice versa...

I follow André Barbault’s use of outer planets and their [ historical] cycles and refer mainly to Campion et al books/work on Mundane astrology.

I haven’t particularly looked and B.J and J.C’s charts in detail as the birth times are not known or suspect. However someone on the astro.com forum made an interesting observation re the transiting North/South Node - 8 deg Cancer/Cap which impacts Johnston’s chart along with the 1066 and 1801 charts. On that basis the poster predicts that “not only will it be a Conservative victory but it will be an outright win with a large majority???.
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7 am chart

Sun 19 Sag/1st house represents monarch/PM - in a mutable T square with Moon and Neptune..duplicitous wavering, wanting to side with everyone with no real outward conviction, but has a very public persona.

Common people = Moon 20 Gem/7th of the open enemy, opposes the monarch/PM and squares Neptune/Pisces – against confused manifesto packages of ideology/promises and unrealistic policies?

The full moon prior to the opening of the polls had completed ‘something’ for the people but now the moon is void of course, as the votes take place- undecided/apathetic right up to the moment of the vote?.

Mercury ruler of 7th conj Sag Asc- balancing on the Asc line with no other support? The 7th may represent the open enemy of EU/brexit issues [remain or leave], the reason why the election was called in the first place.

Asc Sag ruler Jupiter 2 deg Cap trines Uranus Taurus- the vote/election is concerned with structure/tradition/security, with freedoms of finance and laws [enterprises/business/trade] Perhaps the election is representative of ‘conservative’ liberal/traditional values of the people: ‘the leavers’??.

Government [Virgo 10th ] MC in Libra/11th – Venus ruler in Cap 2nd conj Sat and Pluto - represents the old order of structure/financial security but on the verge of change/transformation to a new order [reflecting international and the global geo-political situation, plus unfolding of the new cycle of Pluto/Saturn]

Labour opposition [plus others], together with ‘end of matter’: IC Aries- Mars 15 Scorpio/12th of hidden enemies - fixed immovable stuck. Mars trines Nep/ Pisces- Labour Corbynism have their brand of social ideology and social policies, but lies hidden not to emerge this time.

In Placidus the 11th house of Parliament also falls in Scorpio - Scorpio being a thematic link [deadlock/stuck] in the ingress and full moon charts mentioned above.

While both the MC and IC rulers are not in strong positions, a Tory win looks likely but with a reformed/transformed Tory party or leadership?? [May be a hung/ no majority government]

However Venus/Mars are in sextile -so deals, compromises between the main parties?

Neptune, signature of socialist ideals and ‘new collective thought’, that is becoming the zeitgeist of the Age, may be the broker, [being in sextile and trine to both]. It may influence/ help to push through social/health care policies for the marginalised population and ongoing brexit issues [trade/negotiation deals etc] while taking on global social issues to change collective attitudes, as in the climate change movement, for example.

These movements tend to spring from the minds of younger generations and the Moon in Gemini represents this section of the population [here in the UK in particular] If the election does not go in their favour then there may not be an acceptance but more a rising up in opposition.

Also the geo-political astrological picture now occurring with other outer planets will highlight the transformed political nature of the UK on the global stage, the message being that national politics is no longer a ‘home grown’ one and therefore cannot be viewed in isolation - we are all part of ongoing movement towards globalisation- whether we ‘leave’ or ‘remain’ or whether or not Scotland will achieve their independence one day.

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Well Thanks for that very full explanation !

I tend to look for the Big Plays and as a Remainer I take some hope from the t.Saturn opposition to the 1801's 10th n.Moon.

About 0°14' from completion.

Also t.Saturn, and t.Pluto forming an inconjunction to Johnson's Sun.

Also the t.Node will soon enough conjunct Johnson's n.Node.

However, this can be read two ways. I think Johnson's is far more of a Liberal than the Tory Election Campaign has been.

He's thought to have ONLY voted Leave because he felt it'd play out well once Cameron had finished up.

Johnson like most thinking there wasn't a Hope in Hell that Leave would win.

So Britain's Trump for sure. Trump NOT really believing he'd win.

So I think things point to the Tory's winning with a majority of say 20, and then Johnson having to deliver BREXIT, and related "Promises" he doesn't really believe in.

EDIT I think things go South too for the Anglo Saxon world once the Jupiter/ Sun r.Uranus trine un winds before Xmas.

Unless the 26th Dec Solar Eclipse delivers something special.

H

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WooWoo wrote:Well Thanks for that very full explanation !

I tend to look for the Big Plays and as a Remainer I take some hope from the t.Saturn opposition to the 1801's 10th n.Moon.

About 0°14' from completion.

Also t.Saturn, and t.Pluto forming an inconjunction to Johnson's Sun.

Also the t.Node will soon enough conjunct Johnson's n.Node.

However, this can be read two ways. I think Johnson's is far more of a Liberal than the Tory Election Campaign has been.

He's thought to have ONLY voted Leave because he felt it'd play out well once Cameron had finished up.

Johnson like most thinking there wasn't a Hope in Hell that Leave would win.
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Thanks WooWoo

The stand out aspect and position in the election chart for me is that mutable T square between the Sun Moon and Neptune. It encapsulates the moment of the people v government/PM; the leadership of both BJ and JC v confusion, duplicity and lies from both [as is ever thus in the game of politics- integrity, professional or personal is never the order of the day- many machinations also involved so that party political policies will never fully succeed for the benefit of either the left or the right views of ‘the common people’: lines which are becoming more blurred and indistinguishable]

JC has Sun, Venus and Mercury in Gemini, the latter planets being impacted by the full moon. Said to be from a Democratic Socialist position of old labour values; successful as a campaigner and back bencher for the underdog and a Eurosceptic of the Bennite tradition. But hoisted [did he really want that position of authority?] into a position of leadership in 2015 where he has kowtowed to the hard left ideologies of McDonnell and Milne, subservient to the membership and to the different factional movements that have arisen in the party recently. His campaign has been based McDonnellism policies with little acknowledgement of the traditional Labourites who mostly voted brexit. He appears wavering, having to hide his own personal and long term political ideology [Interestingly he has no Cancer/Cap planets in his chart, signature signs of government v people in the 1801 chart]

BJ another Sun Gemini with Mercury 19, also strongly impacted by the full moon; MC 12 Cancer [if time is correct then this is close to the 1801’s Cancer Moon, which T Saturn has been impacting as well]; Cancer NN at 2 deg [whose ‘return’ is mentioned above but still wide atm]. Astro.com gives a succinct bio, which indicates a background/family where he has been primed or has had ambitions for ‘the top job’ [admitted by him I think?] Yes, his politics have been “both economically and socially liberal policies??? so on the face of it he resonates with the “small c??? conservatives, who in turn reflect the election chart [mentioned in my 2nd post]

So leadership/PM ambition is the driver of BJ, yes, brexit appears to have been an opportunity - duplicitous

The reluctant leadership of JC [as I perceive] and having to put aside his own political values for the ambition of others is also duplicitous.

I’ll post some more on the 1801 chart and current transists shortly

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Looks like I called this one right.

Incidentally, just a reminder if I see blatantly non-astrological posts entering into a political rant they will be deleted immediately without notice.

So if anyone here is wondering where their posts went they have their answer.

Mark
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

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Woo Woo wrote:
Unless the 26th Dec Solar Eclipse delivers something special.
I wouldn't count on it. I think locations where the eclipse path doesn't pass are not astrologically influenced by it. Compare that to the last visible solar eclipse in Britain in 2015. That was highly significant. Not least because it fell on the degree of the 1066 Moon.

A more relevant focus is the Lunar eclipse on January 10th 2020 which falls on the Moon of the UK chart (1801)

Mark
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

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Woo Woo wrote:
Unless the 26th Dec Solar Eclipse delivers something special.
I wouldn't count on it. I think locations where the eclipse path doesn't pass are not astrologically influenced by it. Compare that to the last visible solar eclipse in Britain in 2015. That was highly significant. Not least because it fell on the degree of the 1066 Moon.

A more relevant focus is the Lunar eclipse on January 10th 2020 which falls on the Moon of the UK chart (1801)

Mark
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

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I was worried about Jupiter's trine to r.Uranus. That'd be a strong Right Wing type of Wave.

I just wonder now how that'll leave things as it begins to unwind next Week.

I can't interpret how that will have changed Jupiter's entry to Capricorn.

The Over Confidence has got a Foot Hold in Capricorn or we are just set for one Hell of a Fall ?

People like Harry Dent are warning of Disaster.

H

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It's all very, very exciting.

I haven't sat down to really peruse what people here have said but I'm glad to have something to read through.

I predicted this on my youtube. I said that the transits being so exact i.e. Chiron direct and t square at the same time, Full moon over Neptune t square etc. Plus Jupiter being a big feature the result didn't have a 'muddled' feel.

Also, I specifically mentioned Nessus in the seventh house of the exit poll. That someone would feel that something was 'unfair' and probably that would be the opposition party being the Descendant.

I also said something that goes against my leaning. I'm pro Brexit Party but I decided that Farage wouldn't get a seat. With Uranus going in to the ninth house i.e. Brexit being back into the 'ideas' realm and Jupiter and Pholus on the fifth house cusp it again being about an individual. I laid down money that opposed this part of my reading of it.

Anyway, watching as his administration unfurls and all the changes likely to happen. He is so much less boring than most run of the mill politicians. Hopefully he will cut all the lefty quangos whom are completely unaccountable. But I have more to research. Some astrologers have mentioned what might happen come the eclipses so that's what I will likely look at next.

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I wrote the comments below on November 22, 2019.

In olden days, the horoscope of the Monarch was, in effect, the horoscope of the nation.

Saturn conjunct Pluto on the Queen’s ASC is fascinating not just on a personal level, but also, on a national one.

It reflects “extreme isolation???, “loss and removal???, “the resourceful loner???.

Predictions that the Queen could suffer from an illness at this time that would remove her from the public eye have been made. Similar forecasts, and worse, about Prince Phillip have been made. Indeed, his retirement from public life and full-time residency at Sandringham in 2019 have isolated the Queen.

What fascinates me is that the upcoming British election and the next Brexit deadline of January 31, 2020 are happening within this conjunction period on the Queen’s ASC.

It appears evident that this is the time when Britain finalizes Brexit and “goes it alone???.

Regards,
Dean B.