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Yair Alon



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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:15 pm    Post subject: 2020 forecast Reply with quote

Hello, all.

I know it is not usual to make forecasts for a new year based on the turning from Dec 31 to Jan 1, and usually forecasts come with the ingress of Sun in Aries etc.

But most people do expect astrologers to say something about the new year around this season (and they don’t want to wait until March).

So my question is twofold:

- what kind of techniques would you use to make forecasts for the whole of 2020?

- does anyone has a text, blog post or youtube video of a traditional astrologer analyzing such forecasts?

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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:26 am    Post subject: 2020 Reply with quote

Ray merriman pubishes predictions on a yearly basis and he probably has some you tube videos. My understanding is that he thinks trump will be re-elected, not impeached but in 2021 trump might get thrown out by 25th amendment action. I believe he is predicting an economic downturn but not as bad as 2009. Amy
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Amy. Never heard of him, i’ll try to find something on him. BEST
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have looked at him. His youtube channel has a forecast only for 2017. His website is directed only to financial and market analysis, and there is a 2020 Forecast for US$ 55,00.

Not exactly what I want.

Any more ideas?
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Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blockchain based internet money that is not controlled by any nation state is the most important trend that is coming. By the end of the coming decade most banks based upon centralized control (like the Federal Reserve) will have failed due to QE (Quantitative Easing - which is another word for counterfeiting, but made legal by those in power). Unfortunately nothing can undo the negative consequences of too much "money printing" (Venezuela, Zimbabwe, etc). This will expand into many nations as leaders take their citizens hostage to banks that have been deputized into using money as a system of control and force citizens to use inferior products (by law) as Greece recently did...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/greece-forces-citizens-to-spend-more-online-in-tax-evasion-crackdown-091820879.html

As Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto line up in Capricorn, the impeachment of Trump will be in full swing (but will almost certainly fail). At the same time the banks will be in crisis mode trying to stem the tide of internet money disintermediating their business model. While many banks are expected to fail, some form of centralized blockchain based banking (similar to Ripple) will likely become a standard for people in the western world. China is also doing something similar with WeChat. They are already ahead of us in using this technology but unfortunately they have left technocrats in control instead of using impartial mathematics (which Bitcoin is as a money of the people).

As nations increasingly take their populations hostage on these technocratic economic experiments, individuals will begin to exit their fiat system into "internet money" not controlled by any central entity. Stable coins such as DAI will become increasingly popular as a means of payment across borders rendering many nation state's sanction power useless (particularly the USA).

AI (Artificial Intelligence) comes in a close second as a trend. Both of these technologies generally work at cross purposes to each other but some blockchains favor technocratic control. Decentralized blockchains promote personal freedom because they are not under the control of a central authority. Most AI works for technocratic control producing something similar to 1984 or Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" through data scraping in social media. These algorithms have already been used to manipulate human behavior through social media to achieve desired results.

By the mid 2020's, when Uranus is in Gemini and Pluto has entered Aquarius, the Dapp model for corporate (smart contract) restructuring will have taken over. This will disintermediate the old legal system of the west because blockchain based computing has higher rank and power over political authority. Like gravity, which is an unstoppable natural law, the sheer numbers will be too much for politicians to realistically keep up with and they will begin to realize that their central means of control has failed (the reality is that this control is the source of all terrorism). Some places (particularly in the developing world) will enjoy unprecedented freedom because of this while others (most likely in western developed nations) will be locked down in a digital panopticon.

It could go either way in the US. The financial meltdown in the banking system could cause socialism to rise in the west, or people could decide to not let the central banks control their money bringing prosperity back to the people (if they opt into decentralized IT). The problem is that too many people in the west are addicted to convenience and will choose their Windows 10 over a good Linux system. Convenience leads to slavery.
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Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 2020 Reply with quote

amymaddalozzo wrote:
I believe he is predicting an economic downturn but not as bad as 2009. Amy


It will be worse than 2008-09 by at least a factor of 5X (the laws of math cannot be violated). This video gives the general picture of what is coming...

https://youtu.be/LgI0liAee4s
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yair Alon wrote:

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Hello, all.

I know it is not usual to make forecasts for a new year based on the turning
from Dec 31 to Jan 1, and usually forecasts come with the ingress of Sun in Aries etc.

But most people do expect astrologers to say something about the new year around this season (and they don’t want to wait until March).

So my question is twofold:



Yair Alon wrote:

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- what kind of techniques would you use to make forecasts for the whole of 2020?


I tend to focus around particular events I know are coming up such as an election that year. But clearly, one can look at larger planetary cycles that year. For example in early 2020 we have the Saturn-Pluto conjunction and Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in December 2020.

It depends if you are looking at global predictions or for a particular country. You can use an ingress chart for the whole year for a country if a fixed sign is rising. If you are using a timed national chart you have the option of its annual profection or solar return. But that will not coincide with a calendar year.


Yair Alon

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- does anyone has a text, blog post or youtube video of a traditional astrologer analyzing such forecasts?


Purely traditional? There is not a lot of traditional mundane analysis out there as far as I can see.

However, I can send you links to articles on particular sites. I am not a traditional purist and tend to be a bit more eclectic when it comes to mundane although I do work within a traditional framework overall. Traditional astrologers writing in English that have put out a fair bit of mundane analysis are Peter Stockinger and Steven Birchfield. Tania Daniels has also done some some interesting work too.

Most of this work is on ingress charts , nativities, or opening of poll charts. Some horary astrologers do make predictions based on that for mundane prediction. But that is a controversial topic I would rather avoid discussing or encouraging!

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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thnaks for your insights, Zoidsoft. I see you used transits alone, right?

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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yair Alon wrote:
Thnaks for your insights, Zoidsoft. I see you used transits alone, right?

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Hi Yair,

For the most part my insights into these trends are based upon my knowledge of the technology. The astrology (transits) are secondary to the mathematical properties of bitcoin which cannot be altered such as the S/F ratio (stock to flow) which will have a significant impact on the markets by 2024 (outstripping gold). The numbers are telling me primarily what will happen.
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, okay, I see. So you’re speaking out of experience and empirically, not astrologically lol :-) Thanks again!
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes... For instance a recent trend is people parking their bitcoin on exchanges (which is a grave mistake for a couple of reasons). This allows for fractional reserve bitcoin which suppresses price. The total supply is 21 million which will be reached in 2140. But with people buying bitcoin on exchanges such as Coinbase and leaving them there, the exchange doesn't have to buy that bitcoin on the network. They can just issue an IOU which means that there can be more bitcoin owed than actually exists. The problem with that is if they don't buy, then this artificially pumps the supply of bitcoin (similar to QE that the Fed does) and this suppresses price because if you have 100 billion in bitcoin and then change the number of bitcoin on the exchanges to 42 million, automatically that bitcoin is worth half of what it was before.

This has been happening to the USD and other national fiat for decades and is the scam that populations still do not understand but are about to get a crash course in the school of hard knocks which will intensify this coming spring in many places.

Not your keys, not your crypto.

No citizen has money in a bank. What you have is a legal instrument called an "account" which the authorities grant you permission to your own money if they agree that it is right to use it in the way they dictate. If you don't believe me, try wiring some money to Iran and see what happens to your account.

The only correct way to hold crypto is through your own possession (preferably using a hardware wallet). If you do it any other way, you're contributing to your own price suppression and making bankers richer. By exiting the national fiat system, we can stop parasites from taking control and dictating our lives using fiat.

This suppression is going to become exposed under the Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto conjunction and freedom will be proven to be lacking and the population's obsession with the vote will be shown to be an ineffective red herring. The real power is in your use of their fiat and how you accept payment.

I suspect that a resolution to this issue will become clear by 2026 when Pluto enters Aquarius and Uranus enters Gemini. This also happens to be the approximate timeline to when Dapp based blockchains are scheduled to take over many corporate logistic systems.
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