Tanit3333 wrote:Hello - I am always cautious of charts with one of the major considerations. Does it have hour agreement?
I believe it's a mars hour if calculation is right and venus is in mars triplicity. Think that would constitute as hour agreement.

In any case, the chart itself seems to describe the situation. I would not give Mars to the querent. Mars is the planet that would cause hurt in the situation and here it is peregrine and coming from the 8th, a house associated with painful endings as well, here causing one. The querent is already in the 12th and exalted in Pisces with Neptune, which would not describe someone who hurt someone. She seems like a very sensitive and loving, beautiful and creative person who is probably highly intuitive but is left confused. Lilly says that the querent in the 12th is indicative of despair, basically.
Thank you. So my original thought earlier in my analysis is correct that mars is more fitting for him. She really tried to bring peace, understanding, and compromise to the situation. She was just looking for communication on the matter to help to reach a compromise. But she was left in the dark about a lot of stuff going on at the present timing of the situation. It just felt like he felt that she should just stay in limbo and jump through any hoop he sent her way.

She also thanks you for reminding her that is is a very sensitive loving person. She does find it easier to love and forgive than hate and hold grudges.

Obviously there is the Venus-Mars square coming from difficult houses that could support he was using her for sex and that his motivations were not good, considering especially his own peregrine state and house placement. Mars has excessive fire during the day and more so in a fire sign, rendering it more destructive and it is in a destructive house and aspecting the querent, although with minor reception, which is supposed to help with affliction but I generally regard minor receptions as not the most capable of that.
She feels it probably is this. He was the one pushing for marriage and melting the family together. But, she feels if a man really wanted that they will at least communicate what they need from you.It felt like a mind reading non compromising pinned in a corner situation. Felt like a bullying situation in the end. He very much dotted on her and very only eyes on her then it was like a switch went off and he became cruel to her. She feels it's a red flag for a cycle of abuse and that is why she kept pushing him to try to reach a compromise or something.

Mars reacts more quickly upon instinct and often without thinking much about future consequences, so it could have been a spontaneous decision based on fickle feelings and wanting independence, since that is the nature of Mars. It is considered a selfish planet and I would think more so with excessive fire. I often associate Moon-Mars hard aspects with potential for reactive feelings also, as well as potential for abuse of feelings.
It was very reactive and sudden. It was like a switch that went of. It could be she was very reactive it threw her into panic mode and he probably was reactive too. She really tried to find peace and common grounds.
One thing that I also wondered about is that Jupiter lords both in the 9th in fall in Cap. Were there fundamental belief differences between them, cultural, major distances?
No, there is no cultural difference nor major distance. She said this person was so calling going through financial difficulties.
I often associate Jupiter in fall in the 9th as a loss of faith in something too. SN in the 9th is supporting something negative here. Jupiter might be describing something that influenced that matter. One thing I also wondered is if Mars himself is dealing with something difficult such as difficult losses or deaths.
I'll send pm with some background info on him that she said I could share with you. Maybe he just lost faith in her and this whole situation. They are both dispositied by Jupiter

There are applying aspects here that could lead to future events still unfolding so that might be why the ascendant is early too. The fact that Mars receives Venus (a minor triplicity reception) has me wondering if they still have feelings for Venus and might attempt to enter back into their life in some fashion (although they are not represented well and the querent would do better to not reconnect).
She'll update if something like this happens..hopefully just a genuine apology (she said)

The square of Mars and Neptune can be very debilitating and is often shown in people who do not directly deal with a problem and may not be able to even objectively understand problems the way that other people do. You described him as aggressive and maybe he usually is but he is not actually addressing the issue between them directly if he is ghosting her and Mars-Neptune square is actually precisely the type of aspect I would expect with someone who ghosts another person. Often this can also show someone who has no idea what they want from another person or possibly has subconscious drives to sabotage relationships because they do not feel they are worthy of them. Such people can even fear rejection enough to be the one to leave first. He might be very magnetic though. They may also have drug or alcohol issues.
She can see this in him. Pm with information.

Could you provide how you got the chart? I'm trying to do so in astro to find
web style/reg/chald.decans/ptol.terms lilly.