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Urban-Lurain's 'Astrology as science'
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garry,

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I was never convinced by the model of the mind being similar in nature to a computer, which Dean et al seem to take as a given in this section. If anyone has any comments on the arguments I'd be interested to hear them.

It would take me several hours to respond in detail to every falsity in their arguments, so I will just stay with the basics here.

1. Figure 5 (the superchart) is a joke. We could produce a similar figure for human anatomy (showing all bones, muscles, veins, etc), and use that as proof for the impossibility of the medical sciences.

2. The comparison of astrology to judging aesthetic quality of artwork is supposed to be objectively valid?

3. They have no idea what they are talking about regarding to chess. Chess-players don't approach the problem as described.

4. They are totally wrong when calculating the possible combinations in a chart.

5. Complexity doesn't preclude the discovery of simple patterns. The assumption is that our ancestors were exact replicas of today's man, which is false. Also, the complexity of life far exceeds anything else, and we are still successful in managing and discovering simple patterns.

6. They talk about the 'dismal Vernon Clark results' here whereas in section 9.6 they quote him as 'his results have fatal problems,' i.e. they cannot be used for any argument. Self-contradiction, Mr. Dean.

7. Skinner's pigeons? Please, give me a break, is this a scientific argument?

In summary, their arguments are disappointingly shallow, self-contradictory, based on false assumptions, factually incorrect, pseudoscientific and seem to be agenda-driven. Need I say more? Smile
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