PLUTO -- Support Group for Scorpios 1 by SGFoxe Now that Pluto's been demoted, how are the scorps out there transforming? Back to old ruler Mars??? Ceres probably assigned to Taurus or Virgo ... What are the particulars and peculiaries of UB 2003 -- any scorpionic affinity. Did so much history on the basis of the Phoenix -- the PL/NE 500 year cycle Quote Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:51 pm
2 by granny_skot You know its funny you should ask, I"ve always thought Pluto was misplaced as ruler of Scorpio, thought that if it ruled a sign it should be Pisces, as it is the about death and regeneration, the end and begining of the cycle etc. ERgo I've always USED Mars for that sign. My Daughter is a SCorpio and I'm an aries, Mars is one of very few things we seem to share. The real question is, have you rushed out to buy an Ephemeris with Pluto still in it? Get em while they last! I have my 50 year ephemeris, I find it doughtful I'll live longer than 90 years, if I do, I'll have to trust astro.com to keep pluto in their charts. Granny Quote Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:11 pm
Oh no! 3 by sisi Help! I've got Pluto conjunct my Ascendant at 5 Virgo, and I've always seen myself within that context. What now?! Do I no longer bear the gifts (and brunt) of what Pluto offers? Sisi Quote Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:01 am
4 by granny_skot LOL, pluto is what it is, it hasn't changed because IAU decided it was something else. we call the sun and moon planets in astrology, but they aren't, hasn't changed their affect any has it? Granny the ever facetious old woman living in a shoe.... Quote Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:27 pm
6 by Coder Granny wrote:I"ve always thought Pluto was misplaced as ruler of Scorpio, thought that if it ruled a sign it should be Pisces, Perhaps you're not aware that Alice Bailey has Pluto as esoteric ruler of Pisces, and Mars as exoteric ruler of Scorpio. You are in insightful company. As for roses by other names, astronomers of course call that constellation Scorpius. How "dwarf planet" does not amount to "planet" when "dwarf plant" amounts to "plant" only an astronomer might be able to tell me. It would seem as logical to say "dwarf planet" amounts to "dwarf". Viz the logical point that Neptune cannot be a "planet" by the new definition because it hasn't succeeded in sweeping up Pluto -- and scientists are the paradigm examples of rationality??? Quote Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:57 am
Pluto rules Pisces? 7 by sisi Dear Granny, I've got Alice Bailey's book somewhere - will look it up. However, I've always seen Pluto as the planet which demands confrontation with the hope of a rebirth of sorts (whether it's an opinion, or a breakthrough is irrelevant), because boundaries are being challenged. Neptune is the planet which cannot have boundaries - mi casa, sua casa sort of thing. it transcends such things. Pisces' notion of death is about transcending the ego - but there has to be an ego to transcend. What do you think? Sisi x Quote Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:48 pm
8 by granny_skot Well I've never met anyone without an ego, and then there is mundane astrology, so Pisces is about getting through the ugly mess of ending and rebirth, so, hmmm, nope I think IF, and that's a big iff, I dont see the outter planets as ruling signs, Pluto were to RULE a sign, it makes more sense that it rules Pisces, than Scorpio, Scorpio is too physical world for Pluto. In my experience, as i said, I'm sure others have different opinions. Skippy, your obsessions? How do you obsess? let me count the ways... you obsess over the moon and stars in the heavens, and over every grain of sand along the sea, you obsess over the waiter in the restaurant, and over what to serve for tea, how does skippy obsess? With ego and with id such jungian obsession for modern stars are fit. count ad infinitem or count them not at all for obsession is but one thing that preys upon us all LOL, hey dont tempt the muse or you may end up in my next book Granny Quote Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:20 pm
9 by skippy Granny Hah so you think Libra a la Venus is the obssesive type then. I see. Quote Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:00 pm
10 by granny_skot well since i have Libra rising Venus in 7 in taurus, I suppopse I'd have a difficult time refuting that statement. Granny Quote Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:59 pm
11 by carnna I remember my first reading in 1980. she (the astrologer) was a taurus. Told me I had a venus problem....... that I should never gamble..... and to take my rose colored glasses off and leave them off. that's all I remember, but it's stuck. Quote Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:58 pm
Re: PLUTO -- Support Group for Scorpios 12 by Stephanie Hi, I'm new here, but I wanted to weigh in on this issue. I have to admit that "losing" Pluto angered me for a few hours. Ha! I like the word demoted, because for me, at least, that's how it felt. I'm Pluto-ruled, (Scorpio Ascendant, sun square Pluto and other placements) and it's always been my favorite planet. I'll continue to use it as I always have -- in tandem with Mars (usually when I'm reading charts on heavily Scorpionic individuals.) But it was a bit of a blow because I've only recently learned to relate (in a creative fashion) with Pluto. Quote Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:33 pm