What is the ruler of astrology? 1 by Mike According to traditional astrology it's Mercurius. Modern astrology says it's Uranus. And Dante Aligieri says it's Saturn. How can we symbolically determine the planet that fits best.? Astrology is limiting, exacting in the creation and interpretation of the natal chart. So I think that Dante might have a point, Saturn is the ruler of astrology. Mercury has to do with Sun Sign newpaper astrology. And Uranus with New Age astrology. How's that? Quote Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:43 pm
2 by amandaW Hmmm, not bad.. how about... Saturn is the existence and application of a clear set of astrological rules, mercury the detailed approach to analysing charts and uranus the way it is currently viewed by society in general. Quote Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:09 pm
3 by SGFoxe Jupiter -- I recently discovered that it was Hamurabi as priest of Marduk/Jupiter who turned Babylon from a city to an Empire and with it Marduk as a local urban clan deity to supremacy as Ruler of the Gods ... which also established the planet Jupiter as Marduk's celestial presence & Hamurabi as his earthly agent -- 5th tablet of Epic of Creation With this Katarche (1800 BCE) began divinatory astrology ... I've also been toying that the reason for Zeus/Jupiter's supremacy in the Greco-Roman pantheon is some sort of Babylonian influence ... even given Hesiod, who is a millenium later than Hamurabi Other cultures -- eg Scandanavian -- do not have Jupiter as the Supreme Deity ... Loki/Thor does not outrank Odin (Mercury) ... Virachocha/Quetzcoatl of MesoAmerica too is Mercury -- Thoth/Mercury in Egypt too For that reason, I see Jupiter as the ruler of astrology, given its place in the invention/creation katarche of the craft or art in western terms Quote Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:17 pm
4 by Mike Jupiter would be great as ruler of astrology. However a better argument may be needed to support that. Quote Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:31 pm
6 by Tom How can we symbolically determine the planet that fits best.? I like John Frawley's reason for preferring Mercury to Uranus: "We are thinkers not eccentrics." Tom Quote Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:38 pm
Mercurius 7 by James Frazier While I am in complete agreement that Mercurius is as good a candidate as any for ruler of astrology, and with all due respect to Frawley, I not so sure that the statement, "We are thinkers not eccentrics." is entirely defendable when referring to astrologers. Maybe I should just speak for myself...I am much more eccentric than a thinker...just use this post as evidence. In response to " Mercury has to do with Sun Sign newpaper astrology" one wonders what the ancients did with Mercury since, to my knowledge, newspaper astrology was not invented till about 1936. Last edited by James Frazier on Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:50 pm, edited 2 times in total. Quote Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:01 pm
8 by woodwater i like astrology cause it is old and misterious(saturn-aquarius??) Quote Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:26 pm
9 by aquirata If one reads ancient texts, one will find a lot of evidence in support of Mercury ruling astrology. Uranus does have a strong affinity with it as well. There is a difference between the seven ancient planets and the rest of the bodies, however. Only ancient planets can 'rule' anything, by definition. If you want to involve the rest of the planets, you will need to define what you mean by 'rule'. Peter Quote Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:22 pm
10 by James Frazier Could you say more about what you see as the affinity between Uranus and astrology? I am not wishing to challenge you, simply to hear more from you about what leads you to see affinity between them? Last edited by James Frazier on Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:15 pm, edited 1 time in total. Quote Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:34 pm
11 by aquirata James, This is more a personal feeling than anything else. Probably a combination of accumulated understanding and personal experience. In mythology, Uranus is the God of the Sky. Philip Graves puts astrologers with Uranus in http://www.skyscript.co.uk/uranus3.html. Kim Farnell quotes Robert Cross, the last Raphael, as such: "Astrologers, as a rule, have Herschel prominent in their nativities" (1879) http://www.skyscript.co.uk/ur_aq.html Peter Quote Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:43 pm
12 by James Frazier aquirata wrote:James, Philip Graves puts astrologers with Uranus in http://www.skyscript.co.uk/uranus3.html. Kim Farnell quotes Robert Cross, the last Raphael, as such: "Astrologers, as a rule, have Herschel prominent in their nativities" (1879) http://www.skyscript.co.uk/ur_aq.html Thanks for the reference to these articles and discussion lines. Unfortunately, I can't make the link to Phillip's work. Kim's article and discussion thread were most enlightening. I appreciate the referrences. Quote Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:23 pm