16 by margherita I believe because 7 is considered a particular number in all the traditions, it's called climateric year, or sabbatical. This is the Old Testament, Deuteronomy, 15,1 "At the end of every seven years thou shalt make a release" But there should be something about them in Plato too. They are traditionally connected with Saturn. margherita Traditional astrology at http://heavenastrolabe.wordpress.com Quote Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:28 pm
17 by Arihant Gjiada wrote: They are traditionally connected with Saturn. margherita Saturn's , numerological connection is with number 8! Rather , Uranus, with its inherent changeability vibes well with Number 7...and this seven year itch syndrome..incidentally , Uranus leaves a sign after 7 years... "You are a Divine expression of the Universe" Quote Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:31 pm
18 by margherita Arihant wrote: Saturn's , numerological connection is with number 8! Well, strange, because planets known to ancients are seven. margherita Traditional astrology at http://heavenastrolabe.wordpress.com Quote Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:54 pm
19 by Arihant Gjiada wrote:Arihant wrote: Saturn's , numerological connection is with number 8! Well, strange, because planets known to ancients are seven. margherita Though,I cannot say whether, Saturn's (archetype) co-relation with number 8 is very ancient..but it is very apt and nothing strange about it..it is as compatible as Moon association with Number 2 , type of Personalities "You are a Divine expression of the Universe" Quote Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:23 pm
20 by margherita I found this about "climateric" if it can help. "Dizionario universale delle arti e delle scienze" by Giuseppe Maria Secondo, Napoli, 1748. "critical year in which according Astrologers something critical to the native will happen in health and dangerous for him. From the Greek word for step. The first climateric year is the seventh of the human life, the remaining are multipliers of the first, like 21, 49, 56, 63, 84. The last ones are called great climateric because it is believed that dangers are nearer. This is a very old opinion. Aulo Gellio says it derives from Chaldeans, who maybe received it from Plato, whose philosophy is based on numbers, who believed a great virtue in the number 7. Marco Ficinio gives us the source of this opinion: he said there was an year connected to each planet which influenced the body of the native, each one in its place. Now Saturn being the more malefic planet, every 7 year which belongs to it, was the more dangerous, especially the 63 and the 84..." margherita Traditional astrology at http://heavenastrolabe.wordpress.com Quote Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:26 pm
21 by Arihant steven wrote: Also just writing "very apt" in bold does not make it more apt . Steven How many seconds one would take to answer which number would best represent Saturn's principle of hard work/delays/late success... I took it for granted that answer would be 8 , in matter of seconds.. However, I am surprised to see your above comment & as a moderator ... "You are a Divine expression of the Universe" Quote Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:09 pm
22 by ### It's very obvious : 8 consists of connected rings (Are you thinking 'Rings = Saturn'?), 7 only has lines. It's not only easy, but it's fun! Quote Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:45 pm
23 by Arihant steven wrote: As yet you haven't offered any connection to the number 8 Steven Respected Steven, Please accept my thanks ;for your above comments are indeed motivating me to go look ,deeper for the connection.I shall search my book "Kabala of Numbers, By Sepharial , I think he might have given some hints...meanwhile kindly do with following links, I find through goggle: http://astrology.ygoy.com/number-8-satu ... our-ruler/ Number 8 ? Saturn is Your Ruler http://www.kaarmicconnexions.com/Articles.html these dates total to number 8, the number of Saturn http://brightstarlights.wordpress.com/2 ... -olympics/ ((August 8, 2008 8:08 PM Beijing, China Today, the Olympic games commence in Beijing, China. And thank goodness for the Chinese being bold enough to make a big fuss over having the Opening Ceremony be numerologically-inspired. Obviously over there in China they like the number 8, a lot. In astrology, the number 8 is associated with the planet Saturn. Saturn is the real no-nonsense school marm of the zodiac. You will get exactly what you deserve, exactly what you have earned, no more, no less= this is the MO of Saturn. But it is all about earning and rewarding and as such it has come to be associated with wealth and prosperity. Certainly those who work very hard, are disciplined, and respect authority will achieve status and material prosperity (right?); this is what Saturn, and China, espouses. And this is likely the tone we can expect from the Olympics this year. Not only does Saturn play an important role with all of those 8?s in the picture (not only in 8-8-08 but also, 8+8+2+0+0+8= 26=8 ) but also because the chart cast for 8:08 PM, shows Saturn sitting directly in opposition to the ascendant. There is definitely going to be a feeling this year that the ?worthier? of the opponents won, that the hardest working (though maybe not most impressive) should be rewarded and that judging be done meticulously and protocol be followed zealously. No Jupiterian feats of bravado and courage, but rather safe and predictable will rule the day. The other player numerologically and astrologically is 7 and the planet associated with it, Neptune. First of all 8+8=16=7. Second of all, the rising sign for the games is Pisces, the planet associated with Neptune and 7, making Neptune the ruler of the chart. "You are a Divine expression of the Universe" Quote Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:04 am
24 by Dave M. ...just another innocent bystander here [with apologies to Thomas Merton] with an observation. ...a reminder/informative that 888 is the esoteric/Gnostic number of Christ [not Jesus the man but "The Christ"...as the number for Jesus is 33] You are a Divine expression of the Universe. Quote Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:19 pm
25 by Arihant Respected Steven, You can find Sepharial's book, Kabala Of Numbers in e-format at: http://books.google.co.in/books?id=2PnA ... q=&f=false You can Scroll down to Chapter III , Numerlogy & Chapter IV of Various methods of Kabalism..page 42 The Sun 1 , Jupiter 3 and Mars 4 are spiritual numbers. The moon 7, Murcury 5 and Venus 6 are mental numbers ;while Saturm 8 ,Sun 4 and Moon 2 are physical numbers Further , he commented on Sun /Saturn Opposition, Conjunction on the basis of Numbers got by adding year/name etc.. Hope Sepharial methods can be construed ancient by today's standards. Steven wrote: People have offered up valuable and pertinant answers. You have ignored it and ridiculed it If you don't want to pay attention that's great Who I am to ignore the creditable Astrological Insights! World is reading it and probaly have formed its own opinion. Thats the purpose of the whole discussion . I know,I have not ridiculed anyone , or any of the insights. And I hope , you have made above comments only to aghast me...for you are very well aware Astrological quest is a continous process , never ending learning , assimilating new ideas...there is hardly a room for fixed thoughts or single track mind! I am quite thankful of Gjiada contribution and the pain s/he took in compiling her multiple of 7's sabbatical/climatereic nature...but though I do wish , in larger interests , s/he would come-up up with modertn statistical analysis to back up her belief!! What are the odds of some thing climateric happening after 21 yrs or within a year of completing 21 yrs? what chance would suggest? were odd increases for someone with birth number 8? As for me , in my college days , I have enjoyed a bit of gambling in small fete with the game Lucky 7! ( where 2 dies are thrown..) No 7 is considered be lucky/fortunate, hopefully , all around the world..I am unable to associate it in any way with Saturn 's principle "You are a Divine expression of the Universe" Quote Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:18 pm
26 by ### I am quite thankful of Gjiada contribution and the pain s/he took in compiling her multiple of 7's sabbatical/climatereic nature...but though I do wish , in larger interests , s/he would come-up up with modertn statistical analysis to back up her belief!! What are the odds of some thing climateric happening after 21 yrs or within a year of completing 21 yrs? I don't understand this modern religion of statistical analysis and why anyone would want to limit his or her astrological pursuits with it. Actuarial astrology is a sad and dreary activity. Statistics show us the club membership of the common crowd ? the crowd of people, things or events we want to be able to comfortably grasp and place. The more interestingly significant and powerful people, things and events are found in the exceptions, the 'stand-alones', rather than in measured and labeled groups. But those are maybe found on the other side of the statistics ? the side we should be looking at. In other words, look out and away from the group if you want to find the important action. Quote Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:59 pm
27 by Arihant Kirk wrote: The more interestingly significant and powerful people, things and events are found in the exceptions, the 'stand-alones', rather than in measured and labeled groups. But those are maybe found on the other side of the statistics ? the side we should be looking at. In other words, look out and away from the group if you want to find the important action. I agree with you in toto, Kirk , but there are limitations we each have..who wouldn't like to be a Child Prodigy..but we often know whether we are mediocre or not...we can do well to investigate or explore our belief system , discriminate superstitions from universal , general ,specific truths / statistical inferences ..but in the end be able to call spade a spade! I am grateful for your insight and wise words! Its worth following... "You are a Divine expression of the Universe" Quote Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:25 pm