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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: An Excellent Solar Return Book Reply with quote

I present this thread for the serious students of astrology who are probably unaware of a huge re-discovery made in the 1940's on how to accurately calculate a Solar Return. For over 2000 years most astrologers have been calculating in error the accurate TIME for a Solar Return. The reason most modern astrologers today are unaware of this astrological knowledge is because this re-discovery was made in a time period before the Personal Computer was invented. Very few astrologers, including myself, did not have the technical or mathematical knowledge to accurately compute a Solar Return. And even when astrological software was invented the writers of these software’s did not explain the astronomical reasons for an accurate computed Solar Return.

I am a retired businessman and have no monetary or egotistical interest for presenting this thread. My only interest is to endeavor to pass on some very important astrological knowledge for the serious astrological student. A serious study of this thread with its chart illustrations, along with the mentioned book, will prove to the serious student that ‘the Solar Return is the basis of the most powerful forecasting system presently known to astrological technology’. An accurate computed Solar Return is a very important prophetic instrument. This thread and its recommended text book, which is out of print, but still available with online used book sources, is not written for the beginning astrology student. It is written for the seasoned experienced astrologer who understands certain astronomical principles as applied to the structure of horoscopic wheels. However, this thread is presented in a manner that should allow even the beginning astrological student to learn with their PC’S how to accurately compute a Solar Return.

I have read dozens of astrology books and hundreds of astrological articles. With my astrological experiences, Jim Eshelman’s book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ offers important astrological Keys for the astrologer to seeing/understanding the methodology/techniques Cyril Fagan used for Solar Returns. According to Cyril Fagan, he learned many important astrological principles from fact finding tours to Egypt, paying close attention to the most ancient cultures of Egypt. Most astrologers don’t realize Fagan was an accomplished Egyptologist. He deciphered the ancient Egyptian symbols/hieroglyphic writings for the 7 known planets and also their 5 degree pentad star groups. A careful reading of ‘Astrological Origins’ by Fagan will prove to the astrologer; the astronomers/astrologers of ancient Egypt knew more about astrology’s art that history acknowledges. Jim Eshelman has penned an important book for any astrologer, regardless of their astrological schooling disciplines, for seeing and understanding certain timing factors for important ‘intrinsic’ meanings of planetary symbolism. It is important to understand, the astrologer must have an accurate timed birth chart and precession must be accounted for Fagan’s Solar Return methods to be seen/understood. Fagan relocated his return charts to the native’s residence and placed little emphasis on Sign/Constellations meanings. Precession is accounted for by either using the Tropical Zodiac or using the Sidereal Zodiac that needs no adjustments for precession.

For this first chart illustration about Tiger Wood’s 08 & 09 Solar Return symbolism, I will use the Tropical Zodiac corrected for precession. Without allowing for the Time factor of precession the astrologer gets the wrong time for the all important placements of the Solar Moon & Solar Angles inside the Solar Return Wheels.
Eshelman states in Chapter 7 under the heading Timing:

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“A Solar Return describes the life circumstances an individual experiences during the period of its effects. We have seen how it can be interpreted as an alternative birth chart for the course of the year. At the same time, the Solar Return is the basis of the most powerful forecasting system presently known to astrological technology.”


Tiger Woods Birth Data: 12/30/1975; 10:50 PM, PST; Cypress, California

Rodden Rating AA: BC/HR IN HAND.


Looking at Tiger’s 08 SSR (located to Orlando, Fl.) we see a Solar Return Moon at 14 Aq., a Solar Return Neptune at 22 Aq.., and a Solar Return Venus at 25 Aquarius. Most astrologers would pay little attention to this wide orb conjunct aspect of SR (Solar Return) Moon to SR Neptune & SR Venus. Quoting from Jim’s book the following:

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“…This, then, isolates the Moon as the most crucial agent in a Solar Return, after the angles. Lunar aspects to natal and solar planets can never be treated lightly, even when rather wide in orb. So remarkable is this single factor that, if lunar aspects are nearly exact while the foreground planets are not exceptionally close to the angles, the solar Moon can be the primary theme-setter of the chart for the year ahead, bar none.”


The average annual motion of the secondary progressed Solar Moon is 13 degrees per solar year. A quick mental scan tells us this important progressed rate of the Solar Moon will make exact conjunct and exact conjunct Midpoint aspects to SR Venus & Neptune in the last quarter of Tiger’s 08 Solar Year. Jim’s book teaches pertaining to Solar Return progressions that:

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“These figures will be useful in approximating when Solar Return progressions will mature.”


Cyril Fagan considered exact secondary progressed Solar Moon aspects to be very important. From Fagan writings:

Quote:
“The secondary progressions of the Solar Moon to the conjunction or opposition of any planet during the solar year gives a very accurate timing for an event of the nature of the planet.”


Since Jim’s book clearly tells us the Solar Moon aspects with natal and solar planets will offer the astrologer the ‘primary theme-setter’ for a Solar Return, let me quote the intrinsic meaning from Ebertin’s book (another excellent book) ‘The Combination of Stellar Influences’ pertaining to all 3 combinations of aspects with Moon/Venus, Venus/Neptune, & Moon/Neptune:

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“Moodiness, impressionability, the tendency to be tempted or seduced easily, misguided or misdirected feelings of love, an unnatural behavior. Love expressing itself in the wrong way, an unhappy love, the necessity for renunciation. Over-enthusiastic love and adoration, peculiar and strange tendencies in the expression of love, odd or perverse inclinations. A chaotic emotional life, a dreamy nature, an inclination to be influenced or led easily by other people. A renouncing, unhappy or disappointed woman.”


It should also be noted Tiger’s 08 SR features a foreground tight conjunction of Mars & Pluto with SR Moon applying 1.3 degrees to a semisquare to SR Pluto. This adds a drive (Mars) and intensity (Pluto) to possible manifestations with Tiger’s SR Moon.

Also note the exact Saturn-Uranus opposition in Sept 09 fell ‘partile’ (less than 1 degree) on Tiger’s natal Ascendant-Descendant (relationships) axis. Ebertin’s ‘principle’ on the intrinsic nature of Saturn-Uranus symbolism:

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“Irritability and inhibition, tension”


Taking a brief look at Tiger’s December 09 Solar Return, we note the secondary progressed SR Moon will put on partile, exact dynamic aspects (0,90,180) to SR Pluto, Saturn, and Venus. For brevity sake, I will not quote Ebertin’s delineative quotes for these Stellar Combinations but by the frenzy of current news by the media, there appears there is high probability Tiger’s 09 SR will mark the solar year for execution of the prenuptial agreement!

Jim’s book also clearly teaches if the astrologer is looking for symbolism to tell us possibilities on how the native will react to their Solar Returns—look for important natal aspects falling close to the angles of a Solar Return.

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Natal planets conjunct Solar Return angles essentially show how an individual is reacting personally to the Solar Return.”


We note Tiger’s natal Mercury-Saturn opposition falling tightly on the relationship axis of his 09 Solar Return Ascendant-Descendant! Ebertin states with the intrinsic meaning of the combination of Mercury-Saturn-Ascendant:

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“The tendency to seclude oneself from others, going one’s own way in life…separation.”


Francis Bacon was quoted as saying: “Some books are to be tasted, others are to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested.”

No astrologer could have predicted Tiger’s 09 News Event, but any astrologer who 'chews & digests' Eshelman’s book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’-- will absorb important astrological knowledge for themselves and their clients, perpetuated by Cyril Fagan teachings!

Regards, Steve
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interesting mundane observation pertaining to another quote (teachings) from Eshelman’s book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’:

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“Partile aspects (1 degree orb or less) reign supreme. According to my proposed formulae, a conjunction or opposition with a 1 degree orb is at 99% of its maximum strength. Aspects at this high (partile) level of potency are apt to manifest no matter what.”


Regardless of which timed July 4th 1776 National Chart you use for the USA, the 09 Solar Return features a partile Jupiter-Neptune Conjunction. This is the first partile Jupiter-Neptune conjunction in the entire Solar Return history for the USA National Chart.

With Andre Barbault’s mundane research in the 1940’s pertaining to the ten major (outer) planetary cycles with World National Charts, he isolated Jupiter-Neptune cycles as symbolizing …‘socialist economies and elections with a strong left –wing majority’… pg 187 ‘Mundane Astrology’, Charles Harvey. Harvey stated:

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“Such a fine global vision is that promulgated by the fine French Astrologer Andre Barbault.”


Health Care represents one sixth of the USA national economy; and, it appears the USA ‘left-wing majority’ is close to passing a Law for some form of ‘socialist’ medicine.

Through the teachings of ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ and Andre Barbault’s mundane work, the astrologer can clearly see the dominating, mundane collective effects (‘reigning supreme’) with the first partile Jupiter-Neptune conjunction in the history (09 USA Solar Return) of Solar Returns with the July 4th National Chart.

A link http://www.answers.com/topic/andr-barbault with a breif synopsis of Andre Barbault's astrological career. I noticed that most of his books have not been translated to English.

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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for that, Steve

It was interesting reading. I look forward to (hopefully) reading more...

Peace

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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy New Year and Peace to you Atlantean. I hope to post more interesting reading under this thread about Solar Returns.

Happy New Year To All, Steve
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve,

I suggest a thread covering solar returns and sidereal astrology would be better suited to the Nativities and General Astrology Forum. Recommending a book is perfectly appropriate here, but a discussion of technique would be better suited there and it will probably attract more attention.

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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy New Year Tom. I will only be posting very few posts under this thread (topic) as certain astrological symbolism relates to world figures or the world at large. Since this forum is mainly related to Traditional Astrology and the book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ (Sidereal Astrology) is not related to the main topics of Traditional Astrology, I figured there would be very few members interested in this thread; so, I felt this material would be more suited under the book forum for the few astrologers who may take an interest in Sidereal Astrology.

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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve,

Not everyone at Skyscript is a traditional/tropical astrologer. This topic wouldn't be appropriate for the Traditional Forum, it is perfectly suitable for the General astrology Forum. That's why I suggested posting over there. We discuss all kinds of astrology at Skyscript. We just segment it a bit.

Happy New Year.

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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:00 pm    Post subject: An 'Outstanding Incident' Reply with quote

It is not often I discover Solar Return Charts that exemplify the teachings from ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ which defines a Solar Year for an ‘Outstanding Incident’. The following example (a recent discovery) does not pertain to a world event with a famous person but is a beautiful example of hard core symbolism foretelling the nature of an ‘outstanding event’ with a partile square aspect of Solar Jupiter & Solar Venus. Most Solar Returns are diffused with minor symbolism that only foretells within the context of ordinary/normal living of our lives but occasionally an out of the ordinary incident punctuates our being. This example was made possible by a recent posted link on this forum. Remember when computing this Solar Return in the tropical zodiac you must correct for precession. Also, if your computer program does not compute and show the ‘sensitive point’ of the Vertex, the astrologer will not be able to see/understand this text book definition of an ‘outstanding incident’.


Of all the Solar Returns I have analyzed, the following Solar Return embodies the most of Jim’s technical/teaching principles in his book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’.

The following link http://www.freeconsiderations.com/ has an article by Ken Gillman about an Irish Sweepstakes winner of $120,000, on Oct. 3rd 1970. This article can be read in Volume 5, #3, page 16, titled Chart 6, Lucky Male Sweepstakes Winner. Birth data: June 12th 1952, 1:23 PM PDT, Santa Monica, Ca. Ken’s article uses the tropical zodiac. Ken asks the reader the most important question for this Sweepstake winner of $120,000.

Quote:
“Could the Astrologer Predicted the nature of this event?”


My answer to Ken’s above question is: Only if the astrologer understood the technical/teaching principles in Jim’s Eshelman's book, ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’.

Ken Gillman offers his astrological observations in his article for this event, but his observations are basically void of hard core Jupiter (Greater Fortune, Luck) symbolism. However, the student of Jim’s teachings from his book, ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’, clearly sees the hard core Jupiter Symbolism with the lucky male’s 1970 Solar Return. Solar Jupiter is partile conjunct the Solar Return Vertex (Vx abbreviation for Solar Fire users) partile square Solar Return Venus! Jim’s teachings clearly teach that this Solar Return symbolizes there was going to be an ‘accentuated’ Jupiter-Venus theme within this native’s 1970 Solar Year! Again quoting from Jim’s book:


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“AUXILIARY ANGLES: There is one type of exception to the general angularity curve. Aside from the horizon and meridian there are other sensitive points in an astrological map which can accentuate a planet posited there as though the planet were in the immediate foreground.”


One of these ‘sensitive points’ discussed in Jim’s writings with the “Auxiliary Angles” is the Vertex. Jim states the following about the Vertex:

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“I do not consider the Vertex an angle so much as an important “sensitive point.” Planets conjunct, opposite, or square the Vertex are highly accented…” “…I allow a 2-3 0rb for these (auxiliary) angles…”


As we can clearly see with the native’s 1970 Solar Return, Jupiter the greater benefic and Venus the lesser benefic are respectively partile conjunct and partile square the Solar Return Vertex. Again quoting passages from Jim’s book:

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“Another key point is the 80% mark on the aspect curve. For conjunctions and oppositions, this is a 4 degree orb; for squares, trines and sextiles, about 3 degrees. Aspects within this range, especially transits (for the dynamic aspects (0,90,180), should be eagerly attended when in the Solunar foreground. We are now encountering very serious influences.
Partile aspects (1 degree or less) reign supreme. According to my proposed formulae, a conjunction or opposition with a 1 degree orb is at 99% of its maximum strength. Squares, trines, and sextiles, register 98% of their full clout. For almost any purpose, they can indeed be considered “exact.” Aspects at this high (partile) level of potency are apt to manifest no matter what. For anything less strong, angularity is required to lend easy expressiveness to whatever configuration are present. It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents are most likely to come about.”


Even though the partile 90 aspect between Solar Jupiter and Solar Venus is not involved angularly, it is involved with the ‘sensitive point’ –Vertex—which obviously strongly colored this Solar Return with an ‘outstanding incident’ of winning a 120 K Sweepstakes. Of course no astrologer could have predicted a large Sweepstake winner but the astrologer following Jim’s Solar Return guidelines would have been alerted to a very strong Jupiter-Venus nature of this Solar Return and could have foretold of accentuated fortunate manifestations for the Solar Year. This is the first Solar Return I have ever seen which highlighted a partile planetary aspect aspected partile with the Solar Vertex. I bet statistically, an astrologer could review hundreds if not thousands of Solar Returns and never see partile aspects between two planets falling partile aspect to the Vertex.

Ken Gillman mentions in his ‘Consideration’s article when he states:


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“Pluto is also very much the planetary source of wealth.”


Ken notes t. Pluto is close to the natives Ascendant. I concur with Ken with my personal experiences with astrological charts-- Pluto is indeed a potent symbolic effect for wealth, relative to one’s environment. Pluto symbolic effects when prominently aspected or angular, for ‘weal or woe’ depending on other planetary aspects produces ‘inexplicable phenomena’! Prominent Pluto symbolism produces effects which are “swift, sensation-creating, and record—breaking and denotes firsts in the life of the life.” (Donald Bradley quoted words).

It is also very interesting to note the Solar Moon aspects with this Solar Return. It is widely conjunct Solar Pluto and tightly conjunct Solar Uranus, the ‘thrill planet.’ Jim’s book teaches the importance of Solar Moon and its aspects in a Solar Return and with natal aspects even when the aspects may be wide in orb. The midpoint of Solar Uranus/Pluto fell partile conjunct the Native’s Ascendant and Eastpoint, with Pluto moving closer to the native’s natal ascendant by the day of the event. We can clearly see the powerful (Pluto) thrilling (Uranus) effects of this symbolism for winning 120K.

There is one more important teaching aspect in this Solar Return with the tight angular Mercury-Neptune opposition on the Ascendant-Descendant relationship axis. This aspect could have manifested itself in a matrix of effects but I would bet it manifested itself along the lines of Ebertin’s delineation where he states with Me/Nep/Asc. symbolism:

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“The tendency to open oneself to the influences coming from other people, the state of being exploited, deceived or harmed by others.”


With this much money suddenly (Solar Moon-Uranus) coming into the native’s environment, I am betting with Neptune in the immediate foreground of the 7th cusp, the native encountered other people trying to deceive him in giving them some of this large sum of money.

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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:54 pm    Post subject: Obama 09 Solar Return Reply with quote

In this topic, I am giving examples how the ‘Solar Return is the basis of the most powerful forecasting system presently known to astrological technology’, with important guidelines from the book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’, allowed by the brilliant historical research astrologer, Cyril Fagan. The following is an example of Obama’s 09 Solar Return that forecasted some type of ‘crisis’ (event) involving his progressed Solar Moon, which was due to occur by secondary progression sometime in Jan. 2010. This ‘crisis’, now a very significant event burst into Obama’s life with the stunning election results last night in Massachusetts.
I am a self taught astrologer with books. I have lived a very meager life in a very rural area in the USA. I never attended any astrological seminars but was very fortunate to discover a few out of print material (books, articles) that has taught me important astrological knowledge, backed-up by the intrinsic nature of the planets in our SOLAR system, and astronomical math of the highest order (natural law). When we study any system of astrology encompassing many years, we always have our golden nugget moments when we see and understand something profound. Reading something about astrology in a book serves a good purpose but it’s not until we experience what we have learned with astrology, through our own lives, do we become truly enlighten to something that we put in our memories as very true. “Astrology has to be lived to be learned!” Believe me, when you actually experience planetary symbolism in your own life pertaining to a Solar Moon and/or its progressed aspects; you will then truly understand a Solar Return, accurately calculated, is a very Sacred frame of TIME. I hope with my examples in this topic-- one day you will be able to experience a precise time frame in you own life pertaining to astrological symbolism taught by ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’. Believe me—it will move you.

Obama was born Aug 4th 1961, 7:24 PM AHST, Honolulu, Hawaii, 21N18, 157W51. This birth time was provided by a copy of his birth certificate post on his national web site when he began his campaign for President.

Computing Obama’s Natal Chart in the tropical zodiac, we see an Ascendant of 18AQU.03.
Computing Obama’s 2009 Solar Return in the tropical zodiac, precession corrected, relocated to Washington DC, we see an Ascendant of 09Virgo59. One of the first things I do after computing a Solar Return is I let my eyes locate the position of the Solar Moon noting her aspects with Solar Planets and/or Natal Planets. Then I use a simple mental exercise by noting if the Solar Moon by secondary progression, moving 13 degrees in a year, will conjunct or oppose any Solar or Natal Planets. We note Obama’s 2009 Solar Moon at 7Aqu.36. Adding 13 degrees to the Solar Return Moon’s position we can easily see the secondary progressed Solar Moon will form a partile (under 1 degree) and exact opposition with Solar Sun at 13Leo13, beginning in Jan. 2010. The Solar Return Moon by secondary motion, progresses app. 1.1 degree per month. Counting 5 months from his birthday in Aug to Jan we now know Obama’s progressed Solar Moon will move from 7Aqu36 to 13+degrees Aquarius partile opposing his Solar Sun. In Jim’s book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns, he devotes special attention to Sun-Moon aspects in a Solar Return.

Jim states from ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’:

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“In general, Sun-Moon aspects in a Solar Return represent crisis, significant turning points…Full Moon signals some sort of culmination and with it a stage of maximum extension in some area for the time being. Rudhyar comments, “In any case, some kind of concrete limits have been reached.”…a fitting climax is slated to occur naturally now. This too, is an aspect that calls for a reorientation of some sort.”


You see Obama’s progressed Solar Moon by secondary progression maturing to an exact (full moon symbolism) opposition in Jan. 2010.

Cyril Fagan devoted a-lot of attention to secondary progressed Solar Moon, exact aspects.
Fagan’s words pertaining to progressed Solar Moon aspects:

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“…The Arabic system of progressions, “day-to-year” or secondary method, has proved its worth. It has recently been discovered (1971) that planets in the solar return (known as “Solar Planets”) can be progressed by the secondary rate with very accurate results. On this basis, it will be rare that solar planets other than the Moon with an average motion of some 13 degrees a day-year, will close to an exact aspect during the year. Experience has shown that the progressions of the Solar Moon to the conjunction, opposition, of any planet during the solar year gives a very accurate timing for an event of the nature of the planet. This insistence on conjunctions, oppositions, does cut down the number of solar returns in which these aspects appear, but when they are present they are extremely valuable. The progressions of the solar Moon constitute an ideal method for rectification when the time of birth is unknown. A glance at the ephemeris at the time of the yearly Solar Return will show when the Moon is applying to the conjunction of, or opposition to, a planet. During the year there will be an event of the nature of the planet. If we know the date of the actual event, we can calculate the time of birth that will bring the Moon exactly to the conjunction of, or opposition to, the planet on the correct date.”


The stunning results of the Jan. 19th 2010 MA. election was a significant ‘crisis’ event for Obama. Cyril Fagan teachings and guidelines from ‘Interpreting Solar Return’, foretold to the astrologer Obama was going to experience a ‘crisis’ of some sort, with the actual event occurring in Jan. 2010.

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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:43 pm    Post subject: Obama 09 Solar Return Reply with quote

‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ teaches the importance of a transit to a natal planet(s) when the transit falls close to the angles of the Solar Return. This helps quantify a transit and helps explain why some transits produce little effects—they are not on the angles of a Return Chart. When a transit falls on the angles of a Solar Return, it will set up an important ‘theme’ for the Solar Return. This ‘theme’ may at the time of the Solar Return be difficult for the astrologer to interpret without 20-20 hindsight. One of the main ‘theme’ setters in Obama’s 09 Solar Return is angular Solar Mercury transiting conjunct Natal Pluto.

Bradley, a detailed astrological researcher, wrote this decades ago about angular Mercury-Pluto symbolism is a Solar Return:

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“Circumstances cause great nervous tension when Mercury and Pluto are prominently related. The native may be backed up against the wall of convention or written law, and must “fight his way out” of the predicament. Crises arise which tax his patience, force him to “face the music,” and declare openly his stand on matters. This influence is the astrological index of “being given the third degree.”


We can now see with the stunning results of the MA election—this Mercury-Pluto ‘theme’ setter in Obama’s 09 Solar Return symbolized the predicament he finds himself in today. He has backed himself into a corner with many people of the land turning against his agendas. The liberal majority of the Senate is now blocked by possible filibuster.

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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:38 pm    Post subject: Solar Returns Reply with quote

It is very important to understand a couple of technical issues pertaining to an accurate computed Solar Return. When working in the tropical zodiac, you must correct for precession. You must relocate geographically for the residence of the native at the time of the Solar Return. In all the example I have given in this topic you can distinguish this important difference by noting if you don’t allow for precession & relocated residence you will loose the precise mathematically symbolism for the angles and the moon’s position. For example in Obama’s 09 Solar Return; if you don’t allow for precession and residence location, his secondary progressed solar moon to a partile opposition to his Sun will not calculate/compute the time of his recent political event in Jan 2010. It is very important for the astrologer to distinguish the importance of this technical issue which at times has caused much debate among astrologers.

‘To paraphrase Shakespeare, the fault lies not in our stars but in the manner of measuring them. The secret of consulting Solar Returns lies in the correct mathematical calculations, based on astronomical principles’. The more you experiment with an accurate computed Solar Return, the more you will be able, at times, to see the astounding symbolic results offered by the Solar Return.

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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Bill Clinton's 1998 Solar Return Reply with quote

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“It is when angularity and aspect partiality coincide that outstanding incidents are most likely to come about.” Jim Eshelman, ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’.


Angularity with aspect partiality (aspects 1 degree or less) are uncommon occurrences with Solar Returns, but every Solar Return I have examined, which is defined by the above quote proved an ‘outstanding incident’ relative to the native’s environment. The natal chart should be confirmed with birth certificate or hospital records and all Solar Returns are corrected for precession in the tropical zodiac and located to the native’s residence.

The following is an example of ‘aspect partiality’ and ‘angularity’ in a Solar Return that foretold of an ‘outstanding incident’ while Bill Clinton was President. The ‘outstanding incident’ was the Monica Lewinsky Scandal that burst on to the World Stage during Clinton’s 1998 Solar Return. It is quite remarkable to realize one can calculate a lifetime of Solar Returns for any one native and may only find a couple of Returns that fall under the defining guidelines from ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ for ‘outstanding incidents’. What is even more remarkable is the fact that TIME defined by the natural mathematical laws of pure astronomy, and the intrinsic nature of certain combinations of planetary symbolism, orchestrated the timing and play acting of this World Stage Play; which Bill Clinton acted out as lead character. Shakespeare knew what he was talking about when he saw the World as a huge Stage where we all, at TIMES, find ourselves staring in the cosmic drama of our own Stage Plays. The astrologer who has experience with Solar Returns realizes the true DIRECTOR which TIMES these Cosmic Stage Plays is the astronomy of our planetary Solar System. This is indeed a grand mystery but it is probably this grand mystery that so captures the astrologer’s mind and at times witnessing these cosmic ‘outstanding events’, places our minds in a state of AWE!

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“The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious”. Albert Einstein


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“Real passion for me is always contingent upon Mystery”. Rita May Brown


Bill Clinton was born Aug. 19, 1946, 8:51 AM CST, Hope Arkansas, 33N40, 093W36. Computing his natal chart in the tropical zodiac we calculate an Ascendant of 5Libra30. Computing his 1998 Tropical Solar Return accounting for Precession, relocated to Washington DC, we calculate an Ascendant of 29Cap.31. For your own reference, if you compute Clinton’s 1998 Solar Return for DC, non-precessed, you will get an Ascendant of 06Gem04 which would be calculated in error. Abiding by the guidelines from the book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ ALL Solar Returns computed in the tropical zodiac must account for precession and be located to the native’s residence.

Note that Clinton was born with a partile conjunction of Mars-Neptune partile conjunct his natal Ascendant. This is a most potent signature in his natal chart but no astrologer could have known this natal signature would involve the native with an ‘outstanding incident’ as President of the US—before Clinton became President. However, the Solar Return performed admirably in calculating the year (1998) when this birth signature of Mars-Neptune manifested in Clinton’s life—as President of the US.
Note there is a partile opposition of Mars-Neptune in his 1998 Solar Return, partile his 1998 Solar Return Ascendant-Descendant axis. This is a very rare occurrence to see a prominent angular planetary natal signature appearing prominently partile angular on a Solar Return. But the fact of the matter is here is a Solar Return that promises an ‘outstanding incident’ by the guidelines in ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’. Clinton’s 1998 Solar Return TIMED the most dramatic Soap Opera Event the World has ever see involving a USA President. Shakespeare was rolling with laughter in his grave with this Stage Play, particularity to the act and scene when the character Monica appeared with the ‘stained dress’, which she had saved for months without taking to the cleaners. This stained dress was the proof that sealed Clinton’s fate leading to impeachment hearings for lying to a Grand Jury. The ‘outstanding incident’ Script (1998 Solar Return) of this Stage Play was scripted with the symbolic language of Mars-Neptune. Solar Mars-Neptune was in partile opposition and falling partile angular on the Ascendant-Descendant axis.

Quoting from a couple of my favourite books pertaining to planetary symbolism of Mars-Neptune. These books were written decades before Clinton’s 1998 Solar.

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“…misuse or abuse of physical energy, misdirected powers and capabilities in a criminal sense, self-destroying forces and agents such as drugs, as well as the misuse of the procreative power, feelings of inferiority, the misfortune to suffer harm or exploitation, a negative character, undermining circumstances affecting the family-life detrimentally”… Reinhold Ebertin, ‘The Combination of Stellar Influences’.

“This is another of those “killing” combinations, due to its potency for evil-working in the life. Its keywords are “terror” and “betrayal,” but bear in mind that these are extremes. The native invariably finds himself distraught when a Mars-Neptune configuration is angular in his return chart. The native is subject to brutality and cruelty by others, and is tormented by fear of ridicule and public disgrace. Again, these Mars-Neptune aspects have such a myriad of appropriate meanings, we are stinted from full elucidation of these probable effects beyond this general statement.” Donald A. Bradley, ‘Solar and Lunar Returns.’


There are other dynamic aspects in Clinton’s 1998 Solar Return that define very potent symbolism. Note Clinton’s Solar Moon is angular and conjunct Solar Mars opposing Solar Neptune. Also note Clinton’s Solar Moon is partile Conjunct his Natal Saturn. Remember Eshelman’s teachings from ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ with the importance of Solar Moon aspects to Solar Planets and Natal Planets. Here are some delineated quotes pertaining to other very important angular Solar Moon aspects involving Clinton’s 1998 Solar Moon:

Clinton’s Solar Moon is partile conjunct his Natal Saturn tightly conjunct the Ascendant—Descendant axis. *Note: Cyril Fagan stressed over and over that transits to the Natal Chart only took on very important significance when they occurred on the angles of Return Chats and Quotidian Charts, with the Solar Return being the supreme forecasting chart. This certainly helps explains to the astrologer why most transits to the Natal Chart produce little noticeable effects because they are not involved with the angles of Return Charts. Angularity was the ‘Cornerstone’ of Fagan’s astrological teachings! I will later explain how Fagan leaned about this ‘angularity cornerstone’ by his brilliant studies of ancient Egyptian ‘astrological origins’.

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Moon-Saturn symbolism:
“There is little incentive to gain or expansion of worldly interest in charts where the Moon and Saturn are in formation, for these denote setbacks, losses, sorrows, and severe blows to the natives pride which give rise to regrets and grief. The surest token of Moon conjunct Saturn is deprivation and disappointment, for the native suffers through loss and denial”. Donald A. Bradley, ‘Solar and Lunar Return’.


*Bradley’ stated his astrological research with planetary delineations only apply when they are angular in Return Charts.

The last aspect I want to discuss involving Clinton’s 1998 Solar Return is transiting at 00 Aquarius opposing his Natal Saturn at 02 Leo. This aspect is tightly opposed on Clinton’s 1998 Solar Return falling very close to Clinton’s Solar Return Ascendant-Descendant axis but it is not partile BUT this aspect is in Paran formation where transiting Solar Neptune and Natal Saturn are respectively, ‘bodily’, on the Ascendant and Descendant axis. This is proved by astronomy with the rising degree of Clinton’s Solar ascendant rising with a local sidereal time (LST) of 15:16:00, Clinton’s Solar Neptune rising with a LST of 15:16:17 and Clinton’s Natal Saturn Setting with a LST of 15:13:45. A separation of 8 clock minutes or less in sidereal time with the angles constitutes a Paran—so in actual fact using sidereal astronomy transiting Neptune is partile opposed Clinton’s Natal Saturn only on the Asc-Des axis of his 1998 Solar Return. In Fagan’s book teachings this is HUGE! Fagan states:

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“When two or more planets are simultaneously (bodily) on the same, adjacent or opposite angles they are said to be in paranatellonta (Paran). This is the most powerful of all planetary configurations. Such configurations are particularity important when they fall on the angles of a return map whether cast for the birthplace or for the place of residence. A change in residence can alter the formation of a paranatellonta”. 'Primer of Sidereal Astrology'


Again, most practicing astrologers realize that most transits to the natal chart produce little recognizable effects. Solar Return analysis alerts the astrologer when a transit to a natal factor WILL produce very important effects!

Bradley states pertaining to angular Saturn-Neptune in a Solar Return:

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“A real throne-toppler, this. Among its paramount keywords is “removal,” for Saturn-Neptune surely takes first prize for forcing resignations, abdications, exiles, deportations, and firings from jobs”. 'Solar and Lunar Returns


Clinton came very close to being impeached for lying about getting a BJ in the White House. His 1998 Solar Return offered precise timing and remarkable planetary symbolism for this ‘outstanding incident’ on the World Stage.



Bill Clintons Birth Data & Bio. Can be found at the following link:
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Clinton,_Bill Even though his birth data is only rated A by Rodden Rating, his 1998 Solar Return using the guidelines for an ‘outstanding event’ from ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ confirms to me his birth time is very close to accurate.

Regards, Steve
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: Additional Data to Clinton's 1998 Solar Return Reply with quote

One other important aspect about Clinton’s 1998 Solar Return. Look at his Natal Chart and note the tropical zodiac positions of his Natal Moon & Natal Saturn. We see they are separated by 72 degrees of arc. Some astrologers classify this as a ‘minor aspect’, a Quintile. Fagan classified this as an important mundane aspect, ‘a rotational square’ Paran—having the potential for much greater potency than the minor 72 degree Quintile aspect. In Eshelman’s book, ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ Clinton’s Mundane Natal Moon-Saturn position is classified as a ‘Potential Paran’, which could/would be activated into an ‘Active Paran’ if it fell in Paran Formation on the angles of a Return Chart. Clinton’s Natal Moon AntiCulminates with a local sidereal time (LST) of 15:14:05. Clinton’s Natal Saturn Sets with a LST of 15:13:45. Since these two natal planets are separated by less than eight minutes of clock time it constitutes as a ‘rotational square’, Potential Paran. Clinton’s 1998 Solar Return Descendant computes with a Setting LST of 15:16:00, and an anticulminating IC with a LST of 15:16:00. Bingo! Clinton’s ‘Potential’ Natal Paran of Moon-Saturn becomes an ‘Active’ Paran in his 1998 Solar Return. In other words, Clinton’s Natal Moon & Saturn fell bodily on his 1998 Solar Return IC & Descendant, respectively. When we put Clinton’s Natal Chart on the outside of his 1998 Solar Return, his Natal Moon & Saturn don’t show the eyes this most important Moon-Saturn Paran. So, Clinton's 1998 Solar Return featured a 'Double Whammy' of Moon-Saturn Symbolism--a Solar Moon partile conjunct Natal Saturn, angular, and, a Natal Moon-Saturn Potential Paran that became an Active Paran on his 1998 Solar Return.

Sidereal Time is used to calculate the true mundane construction of a chart wheel—not tropical time. We are dealing here with arcane and sacred mathematical aspects of the Sidereal Zodiac using Sidereal Time; the zodiac the ancient Egyptians & Babylonians astrologers used—but it doesn’t really matter which zodiac you use because we don’t need the sign or constellations meanings to see & understand the rich planetary symbolism with the true, mathematical mundane positions of the Solar Return angles, and Solar Moon. Again, Fagan stated he discovered these arcane & sacred mathematical principles by studying ancient Egypt’s culture along with the rest of astrology’s history. This is what allowed Fagan to make the discovery that 99 % of astrologers, for 2000 years were not allowing for Precession, when Computing their Solar Returns in the Tropical Zodiac; therefore astrologers were not calculating accurately the precise mundane position of the angles & moon of a Solar Return. When today's astrologers see the optional function of the word Precession in their computer programs, it should be understood the Precession option in computing Solar Returns would not have been implemated without Fagan's astrological historical discoveries. Fagan’s historical discovery was immense for our era of modern astrology. When seriously studied, Fagan’s brilliant historical research allowed Eshelman to state in ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’:

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“The Solar Return is the basis of the most powerful forecasting system presently known to astrological technology”.


Fagan realized 100 % of the ancient astrologers (pre Greek) were calculating Solar Returns in the original Sidereal Zodiac—which automatically accounts for Precession. When the new Tropical Zodiac was invented with the Greeks, the mathematical adjustment for Precession with Solar Returns was not realized by most Greek astrologers; therefore, Solar Returns and the true mundane, mathematically construction of Solar Return scope wheels became lost!

*Note: Most Natal Charts have hidden mundane aspects (Potential Parans) in their charts. For those who are interested, the following Ken Bowser article helps explain about these hidden mundane aspects in our Natal Charts. Go to this link: http://www.westernsiderealastrology.com/articles/articles.asp

and click on the article, ‘Aspects In Mundo’

Regards, Steve
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Unique Relationship Sun/Moon/Earth Reply with quote

One of the most startling, mysterious aspects of astrology I have ever witness is the symbolism offered by secondary progressed Solar Moon aspects to Solar & Natal planets. I would have never been able to experience this aspect of astrology if it had not been for Jim’s teachings in his book, ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’, perpetuated by Cyril Fagan. Every year we get a new position of our Solar Moon with our Solar Returns. At times the symbolism offered by our Solar Moons is stunning! When the astrologer starts to closely inspect the symbolism of Solar Moon with analysis of dozens of Solar Returns, (s)he will understand there is a unique relationship that exists between the Sun, Moon, & Earth with astrology. But there are other mysterious mathematical relationships that exist between the Sun, Moon, & Earth stated by Christopher Knight & Alan Butler:

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“Have you ever wondered how marvelous total eclipses are?

It is a very strange quirk of fate indeed that the disc of the Moon should seem, from an Earthly perspective, to be exactly the same size as the Sun. Whilst we casually take it for granted that the two main bodies seen in Earth's skies look the same size, it is actually something of a miracle. Most people are fully aware that the Moon is tiny compared to the Sun but that it is much, much closer to us causing them to appear as equal discs. To be precise the Moon is 400 times smaller than the star at the centre of our solar system, yet it is also just one 400th of the distance between the Earth and the Sun.
The odds against this optical allusion happening at all are simply huge - but how bizarre that both values are the same, perfectly round umber. Experts are deeply puzzled by the phenomenon. Isaac Asimov, the respected scientist and science-fiction guru, described this perfect visual alignment as being:

"The most unlikely coincidence imaginable".

Regards, Steve

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:51 pm    Post subject: Bush's 2004 Solar Return Reply with quote

The following is an exemplary example of one of the two methods Fagan used to progress a Solar Return. The two methods Fagan used to progress a Solar Return was the Solar Quotidian and the PSSR. This is an example of the Solar Quotidian and most of my astrological experiences have been with the Solar Quotidian simply because my main computer program Solar Fire will not accurately compute the PSSR. Fagan’s methods of progressing a Solar Return is the only method in astrology which will at times, calculate ‘outstanding incidents’ to the actual day of the incident. The key timing components for Fagan’s progressed Solar Returns involves the Solar Moon with its progressed positions & and progressed Solar angles. When the astrologer sees and understands the mathematically preciseness with the richness of planetary symbolism of an accurate computed Solar Return, (s)he begins to appreciate the brilliant work of Cyril Fagan and Jim’s book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’. There is an ancient saying; ‘TIMING IS EVERTHING’ and Fagan’s work brought back the correct ‘TIMING’ for a Solar Return which had been lost to the art of astrology for 2000 years.

Birth Data-Tropical Zodiac: George W. Bush. July 6th 1946, 7:26 AM, EDT, New Haven, CN, 41N18, 072W56.
Natal Ascendant: 7Leo06

2004 Precession corrected Solar Return in the Tropical Zodiac located to Washington DC. 2004 Solar Return Ascendant 21Gemini38. 2004 Solar Return Moon 8Pisces05.

The astrologer who has studied Jim’s book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ realizes the importance of Jim’s teachings when he states:

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“A Solar Return describes the life circumstances an individual experiences during the period of its effects. We have seen how it can be interpreted as an alternative birth chart for the course of the year. At the same time, the Solar Return is the basis of the most powerful forecasting system presently known to astrological technology.”


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“…This, then, isolates the Solar Moon as the most crucial agent in a Solar Return, after the angles. Lunar aspects to natal and solar planets can never be treated lightly, even when rather wide in orb. So remarkable is this single factor that, if lunar aspects are nearly exact while the foreground planets are not exceptionally close to the angles, the solar Moon can be the primary theme-setter of the chart for the year ahead, bar none.”


Now look at Bush’s 2004 Solar Return. We note that Bush’s Solar Moon has a tight conjunct aspect with Solar Uranus, a tight square aspect with Solar Venus, and a wide 6 degree orb opposition with Solar Jupiter. The astrologer who has studied Jim’s book ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’ already knows that Bush will experience a very benefic Solar year with Solar Moon involved with Solar Venus & Solar Jupiter. It just so happens 2004 is election year for President in the USA and Bush is running for re-election. Fagan also taught the value and importance of tracking the secondary progressed motion of Solar Moon during the Solar year. We know the secondary progressed Solar Moon will progress 13 degrees in one Solar Year. The astrologer can mentally compute Solar Moon will secondary progress to an exact opposition to Solar Jupiter in Jan. 2005. Again quoting Fagan’s words pertaining to progressed Solar Moon:

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“…The Arabic system of progressions, “day-to-year” or secondary method, has proved its worth. It has recently been discovered (1971) that planets in the solar return (known as “Solar Planets”) can be progressed by the secondary rate with very accurate results. On this basis, it will be rare that solar planets other than the Moon with an average motion of some 13 degrees a day-year, will close to an exact aspect during the year. Experience has shown that the progressions of the Solar Moon to the conjunction, opposition, of any planet during the solar year gives a very accurate timing for an event of the nature of the planet. This insistence on conjunctions, oppositions, does cut down the number of solar returns in which these aspects appear, but when they are present they are extremely valuable. The progressions of the solar Moon constitute an ideal method for rectification when the time of birth is unknown. A glance at the ephemeris at the time of the yearly Solar Return will show when the Moon is applying to the conjunction of, or opposition to, a planet. During the year there will be an event of the nature of the planet. If we know the date of the actual event, we can calculate the time of birth that will bring the Moon to the conjunction of, or opposition to, the planet on the correct date.”


Fagan is clearly telling the astrologer to expect an ‘event of the nature of the planet’ to occur to Bush in Jan. 2005 pertaining to an opposition of secondary progressed Solar Moon to Solar Jupiter. Fagan wrote aspects involving Solar Moon with Solar Jupiter symbolize:

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“Expansions of feelings, success”


Bush was inaugurated, as President of the US, for a second term on Jan 20th 2005!

There was a colleague of Fagan, Donald A. Bradely, who did a systematic statistical research involving Solar Returns with politicians; and, he wrote in his book ‘Solar and Lunar Returns:

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“A candidate for public office can hardly expect election if Moon- Jupiter configurations are lacking in his return charts”.


The secondary progressed Solar Moon moving to a partile opposition to Solar Jupiter in Jan.2005, offering remarkable symbolism for the inauguration of Bush’s second term; but, there is even more remarkable symbolism when the astrologer computes Bush’s Solar Quotidian (one of Fagan’s methods for progressing a Solar Return) for the EXACT DAY of the inauguration—Jan 20th 2005, which includes the exact positions of the progressed angles besides the partile progressed opposition of Solar Moon-Jupiter. Here are angular positions of the MC/IC axis of Bush’s Jan 20th 2005 Solar Quotidian at 12:05 PM, DC, the TIME of Bush taking the oath of office for a second term: MC 15Virgo01, IC 15Pisces01, Secondary progressed Moon 15Pisces34, progressed Solar Jupiter 14Virgo14. Also note the partile trine with Secondary Progressed Solar Moon with Solar Quotidian Sun and Vertex. I again quote Jim’s words from ‘Interpreting Solar Returns’:

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“It is when angularity and aspect partiality coincide that outstanding incidents are most likely to come about.”


On Jan 20th 2005, 12:05 PM, Bush’s Solar Quotidian featured ‘angularity and aspect partiality’ for the ‘outstanding incident’ of the inauguration. This is truly remarkable when the astrologer takes Bush’s 2004 Solar Return and looks at Solar Moon’s position (8Pisces05) and realizes that Solar Moon progresses to 15Pisces34 on Jan 20th 2005; and Bush’s 2004 Solar Return MC (28Aquarius32) progresses to 15Virgo01 which offers this partile Moon-Jupiter angular Hit on Bush’s Jan. 20th progressed Solar Quotidian. It becomes obvious to the serious astrologer we are dealing with very sacred astronomical principles of the highest order with an accurately TIMED Solar Return associated with planetary symbolism! This is only calculable allowed with an accurately TIMED birth chart. Fagan inferred ‘Astrological Origins’ were from ancient Egypt where the true KING of Pharaonic Theocracy was ‘Sacred Science’.

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“Originally back in ancient Egypt astrology united science and religion. In later times both science and religion rejected astrology. Since then astrology continues to be studied quietly by a few, but in the last 100 years, astrology is again beginning to shed its golden light”. Alice O. Howell.


Fagan’s brilliant research into the History of Astrology has indeed helped shed an important part of this ‘golden light’.

It should be remembered when Bush was first put into his first term of office—it was under very suspicious circumstances with a partisan vote from the Supreme Court. Psychologically, Bush felt he may not have been deserving of the Presidency. But, his second term he was elected with a significant majority of the electorate. Hence the ‘dead-on’ symbolism of Moon-Jupiter with his 2004 Solar Return/Solar Quotidian.

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“To study astrology without psychology is impossible”. Reinhold Ebertin


George W. Bush birth data at the following link:

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bush%2C_George_W

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