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jventura



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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Skyplux and LMT entries.. Reply with quote

Hi Majid and Dione T,

majid wrote:
Does Skyplux calculate before 1900? I was trying to enter the LMT for Tokyo in 1889 which is 9:19:04 in LMT and the there was a 'crash' in that I got no images on both Google Chrome and Opera. I am trying out the data for the day the Meiji Emperor declared the constitution of Japan that was in operation for WW2 and the first Atom Bomb etc. I estimate from an eyewitness in the hall (NYT 1889) that it must have been around 11:15 AM LMT.
Majid Buell


Majid,

yes, skyPlux computes to dates before 1900.. What is the data you are inserting? Maybe it is a new bug, i've been updating small things behind the scenes, and maybe i've created a new error!

Dione T wrote:

I can't open the "mentality" tab. It may be my fault and is not essential but you may want to check it (am using FF 3.6.13).

A request - if it can be implemented easily - it would be very handy to see Vx in the charts. I know it is not a point of attention for most but, I find it irreplaceable for mundane (and helpful in serious matters like health issues in horary).

My fav part of your program is giving one-click access to all 4 ingresses. Very helpful and nice touch. Thumbs up


Dione T,

the "mentality" is still not working, so no problem there! Smile
About your request, what is Vx? Vesta?
Glad you enjoy the one-click access. I have employed considerable time figuring a way to make skyPlux user-friendly and intuitive, and i'm glad to see that i'm on the right track regarding that aspect. But my plan is to simplify even more the interface, to accommodate the new functionalities that are being implemented..

Thanks,
Joćo Ventura
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Ed F



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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You did a very nice job on the user interface. The only nit I might complain about is how you handle timezones. I think it would be more intuitive if you were to require the TZ to be entered so that West is negative and East is positive - that is the actual difference of the zone rather than the adjustment value to get to TDT.

Thanks for the lovely program!

- Ed
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re the Data:Meiji Constitution
February 11 1889 Tokyo, Japan Time 11:15 AM
139E45 35N41 LMT 9:19:04
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed F wrote:
You did a very nice job on the user interface. The only nit I might complain about is how you handle timezones. I think it would be more intuitive if you were to require the TZ to be entered so that West is negative and East is positive - that is the actual difference of the zone rather than the adjustment value to get to TDT.

Thanks for the lovely program!
- Ed


Hi Ed,

yeah, the data entering is still not the most usable thing. I've been leaving it behind since the first version, and someday i will have to face it.. Very Happy
Yes, i use the (arithmetic) difference to calculate the UTC time given the TZ. The way you said (TZ negative for West, positive for East), is it the most used way? It is just a matter of exchanging a minus to a plus sign in the calculation of UTC..

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Skyplux and LMT entries.. Reply with quote

jventura wrote:

About your request, what is Vx? Vesta?

Is Vertex. Smile
(I know Vx is not an essentiality and I will understand if you do not implement it, I just have noticed it often forming close conjunctions (0-2 degrees) in critical times).
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jventura wrote:
The way you said (TZ negative for West, positive for East), is it the most used way? It is just a matter of exchanging a minus to a plus sign in the calculation of UTC..

Thanks,
Joćo Ventura


It's what I'm most used to; others may have different opinions.
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Skyplux and LMT entries.. Reply with quote

Dione T wrote:
jventura wrote:

About your request, what is Vx? Vesta?

Is Vertex. Smile
(I know Vx is not an essentiality and I will understand if you do not implement it, I just have noticed it often forming close conjunctions (0-2 degrees) in critical times).


With all due respect Dione T, Joćo Ventura has clearly stated in his first post to us that he had made available a traditional astrology application. No Vertex in traditional astrology I'm afraid Sad
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

majid wrote:
Re the Data:Meiji Constitution
February 11 1889 Tokyo, Japan Time 11:15 AM
139E45 35N41 LMT 9:19:04
Majid Buell


Hi Majid,

i've tracked it down, and the problem is about the timezone. The timezone in skyPlux (still) must be a number (in hours) like 4, -10.3, etc., and not a string like "9:19:04". So, the data is correct, but the timezone "9:19:04" must be converted to hours, and it is about 9.3 hours, so you must insert -9.3 in the timezone field (because Japan is ahead of UTC time)..

Yes, this kind of things is not very intuitive, but as i said in a previous post, i still haven't managed to simplify the data insertion, but it is becoming more and more of a priority.

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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Skyplux and LMT entries.. Reply with quote

jerd wrote:
Dione T wrote:
jventura wrote:

About your request, what is Vx? Vesta?

Is Vertex. Smile
(I know Vx is not an essentiality and I will understand if you do not implement it, I just have noticed it often forming close conjunctions (0-2 degrees) in critical times).


With all due respect Dione T, Joćo Ventura has clearly stated in his first post to us that he had made available a traditional astrology application. No Vertex in traditional astrology I'm afraid Sad


Hi,

jerd is right, Vertex is not part of the astrology tradition. However, i'm not a fundamentalist regarding this, and if some "things" outside the tradition indeed work better, there is always a chance to insert some kind of option to add it to the software.

However, i'm an (extreme) fundamentalist regarding justification. For instance, if Dione T could make a study, using a statistical-based approach, like showing that the use of Vertex in a study is consistent with an hypothesis, it would give us all a great work, and yes, i would add an option for that in the software with all merits to the study's author.. Smile

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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Skyplux and LMT entries.. Reply with quote

jventura wrote:

However, i'm an (extreme) fundamentalist regarding justification. For instance, if Dione T could make a study, using a statistical-based approach, like showing that the use of Vertex in a study is consistent with an hypothesis, it would give us all a great work, and yes, i would add an option for that in the software with all merits to the study's author.. Smile

Thanks,
Joćo Ventura


Not a problem! Like I said I would understand if you didn't add the option. Smile
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: Japan entry.
Got the idea no minutes and seconds in the TZ!
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

majid wrote:
Re: Japan entry.
Got the idea no minutes and seconds in the TZ!
Majid Buell


Hi again Majid,

yes, no minutes and seconds, but do the conversion to hours.
Eg: 10 hours and 30 minutes is 10,5 hours and not only 10.. I'm just being explicit, may someone truncate the value instead of doing the right thing, that is the conversion to hours..

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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

a subtle bug on the calculation of the day of week from a given date has been corrected, so everyone who had problems while computing the almutem (which is where the day of week is being used more often for the planetary day/night calculation) can now use it, free of errors..

I would also make here a question about skyPlux and web-based software in general, for those who care to answer: skyPlux is being used by many people, but i would expect more people to use it by now, almost 7 months after i've open this topic. The usage rate is almost constant, and so i would like to understand if there is something in skyPlux that the users don't like:
- Is it because is web-based and people prefer offline things? Or people are afraid of inserting their data?
- Or is the graphical interface which is "strange"?
- Or is the fact that has only traditional astrology and lacks features?
- Or is it because it's the "new kid in town" and so it is not "known"?

Just to see where I should improve the software, for the benefit of all..


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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:27 pm    Post subject: Skyplux Reply with quote

I use it but I am also a Jyotish practitioner so I have my periods of usage of other software. Maybe you are still new and need some write up in Mountain Astrologer or something.... Smile
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