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Anghelos Theon



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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:46 am    Post subject: Square and Circle Wheel Reply with quote

Regards to everyone! Smile

My question is about history of Astrology.
When was introduced circle wheel in western Astrology and why?
For simple pratical matters or other else?

Thanks in advance!

AQ
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Martin Gansten
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: Square and Circle Wheel Reply with quote

This has been discussed on Skyscript before, although I cannot say exactly when or in which thread. Circular charts have been around for a long time (see here, for instance), but were popularized during the 19th and early 20th centuries. You will find some information on pp. 5-6 of this article.
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Anghelos Theon



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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks, Martin! Smile
The articles are very interesting! *.*

It's real particular the circle wheel in Greek Horoscope (first article) and the trasformation in square wheel. So, it's possible that circle wheel was used already in early time.

The circle wheel is "re-introduced" for pratical motifs (disposition of degrees, ciclicity of sky and so on) or mere estetic reasons?

Thanks again.
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Mark
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
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This has been discussed on Skyscript before, although I cannot say exactly when or in which thread.


Here is the earlier discussion thread I think Martin was referring to. However, its more focused on when medieval square charts gave way to modern circular charts:

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4724

The article by Deborah Houlding Martin has given a link to above demonstrates conclusively that circular charts are present in the earliest preserved horoscopes.

Mark
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Martin Gansten
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Mark. Yes, that was the thread I was thinking of.

Anghelos Theon wrote:
The circle wheel is "re-introduced" for pratical motifs (disposition of degrees, ciclicity of sky and so on) or mere estetic reasons?

Oxley obviously thought it was a matter of great practical significance.
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James E.



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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin Gansten wrote:
Oxley obviously thought it was a matter of great practical significance.


Thank you Martin for sharing your "Worsdale and Oxley" article; indeed, quite interesting.

james
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