Hi
According to SA teacher V K Choudry betwen 14-19 November the conj betwen Rahu and Sun is very hazardous for leaders,political orany type of leaders and bosses or highly placed people.
The sex scandal with General Petreaus is a good example

Makes sense. As to the prior discussion about political astrology in ancient India, it is mostly limited to eclipses and so on.

Most mundane astrology in India is simply a sidereal version of Western political astrology.

Choudry's reasoning probably comes from the fact that the Nodes are regarded as cosmic dragons (or two halves of the same dragon) who swallow the luminaries during eclipses. Since the Sun represents political leaders (mundane astrology in the style of Abu Ma'shar), a Rahu eclipse on the Sun could indeed show danger to political leaders.

Thy seem tohave got it right

Damon

Hello dear list members, The prediction on November 14, 2012, is also coming true: "The conjunction of transit 8th lord Sun with stationary transit nodes in coming days, when these planets are in close aspect to natal infant Sun at 0? Taurus and 5th house will likely increase the strains on the Israeli government quite a bit." Rockets hit near Tel Aviv as Gaza death toll rises Israeli tanks deploy along Gaza border Britain "gravely concerned" over Gaza Netanyahu: Israel will take "whatever action is necessary" Israel's 'Iron Dome' intercepts Gaza rocket GAZA | Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:08pm EST GAZA (Reuters) - Two rockets fired from the Gaza Strip targeted Tel Aviv on Thursday in the first attack on Israel's commercial capital in 20 years, raising the stakes in a showdown between Israel and the Palestinians that is moving towards all-out war. Earlier, a Hamas rocket killed three Israelis north of the Gaza Strip, drawing the first blood from Israel as the Palestinian death toll rose to 19, six of them children. Israeli warplanes bombed targets in and around Gaza city for a second day, shaking tall buildings. In a sign of possible escalation, the armed forces spokesman said the military had received the green light to call in up to 30,000 reserve troops. Plumes of smoke and dust furled into a sky laced with the vapor trails of outgoing rockets over the crowded city, where four young children killed on Wednesday were buried...The Tel Aviv metropolitan area holds more than 3 million people, more than 40 percent of Israel's population. "This escalation will exact a price that the other side will have to pay," Barak said in a television broadcast shortly after the strike. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/ ... WP20121115 OPERATION PILLAR OF DEFENSE Air Force hits 70 Gaza Strip targets in an hour The Jerusalem Post - Fri, Nov 16, 2012 Israel strkes 320 targets in the Strip since launching Operation Pillar of Defense with assassination of Hamas military chief; 16 Palestinians killed; Gazans fire over 270 rockets into South, killing 3. LATEST UPDATES 23:56 Terrorists fire rocket at Bnei Shimon in the South 23:38 IDF: Iron Dome has intercepted over 130 rockets 22:56 Steinitz: IDF achieving 'unprecedented' hits on Gazans 22:09 Ya'alon: IDF will continue operations until Gazans give in 21:52 Israeli Air Force hits 70 targets in Gaza Strip in an hour http://www.jpost.com/ IDF pummels Gaza, orders call-up, after rockets encroach on Tel Aviv Times of Israel - November 15, 2012, 8:53 pm Rockets hit Gush Dan area for first time since 1991 Gulf War; Israel suffers first three fatalities after rocket hits residential building in Kiryat Malachi; three soldiers injured by mortar fire; 274 rockets fired into Israel since start of operation http://www.timesofisrael.com/southern-i ... s-in-gaza/ Thor From: Cosmologer To: "SAMVA@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [SAMVA] Correct prediction for Israel. PPS here is another story. The situation is evidently still quite serious. War looms after Hamas rocket kills three Israelis Reuters ? November 15, 2012, 39 mins ago.. . GAZA (Reuters) - A Hamas rocket killed three Israelis north of the Gaza Strip on Thursday, drawing the first blood from Israel as the Palestinian death toll rose to 13 and a military showdown lurched closer to all-out war with an invasion of the enclave. Israeli warplanes bombed targets in and around Gaza city, where tall buildings trembled. Plumes of smoke and dust furled into a sky laced with the vapor trails of outgoing rockets. Egyptian President Mohamed Mursi said in a televised address to the nation that Israel's attacks on the Gaza Strip were "unacceptable" and would lead to instability in the region. http://news.yahoo.com/israel-hammers-ha ... 08421.html From: Cosmologer To: "SAMVA@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [SAMVA] Correct prediction for Israel. PS more DurdgeReport.com headlines on this unfolding story Top Hamas commander killed in Israeli airstrike... VIDEO... 'OPENED GATES OF HELL'... Target tied to Iran... 'WAR'... TEHRAN MOUNTS MASSIVE DRILLS... Israel launches Operation Pillar of Cloud... Recommends That No Hamas Operatives 'Show Their Faces Above Ground'... EGYPT THREATENS TO GET INVOLVED... Hits 20 underground rocket sites in Gaza... IDF 'ready to initiate ground operation'... Rockets explode in Israeli border town... Friedman: Obama's Nightmare... From: Cosmologer To: "SAMVA@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:18 PM Subject: [SAMVA] Correct prediction for Israel. [1 Attachment] Hello dear list members, On August 4, 2012, the following was written about Israel: "Earlier it was predicted that an outbreak of hostilities involving Iran and Israel was not so likely during the summer, at least based on an analysis of the respective horoscopes of Iran and Israel. In the fall and winter of 2012, this seems set to change as explained below....The transits in the Israeli chart are there, suggestive of conflict. " Today, we read the following: Israel launches Gaza offensive, kills Hamas commander By Nidal al-Mughrabi | Reuters ? November 14, 2012, 1 hr 40 mins ago GAZA (Reuters) - Israel launched a major offensive against Palestinian militants in Gaza on Wednesday, killing the military commander of Hamas in an air strike and threatening an invasion of the enclave that the Islamist group vowed would "open the gates of hell". The onslaught shattered hopes that a truce mediated on Tuesday by Egypt could pull the two sides back from the brink of war after five days of escalating Palestinian rocket attacks and Israeli strikes at militant targets. Operation "Pillar of Defense" began with a surgical strike on a car carrying the commander of the military wing of Hamas, the Islamist movement which controls Gaza and dominates a score of smaller armed groups. Within minutes of the death of Ahmed Al-Jaabari, big explosions were rocking Gaza, as the Israeli air force struck at selected targets just before sundown, blasting plumes of smoke and debris high above the crowded city. http://news.yahoo.com/top-hamas-command ... 18204.html The conjunction of transit 8th lord Sun with stationary transit nodes in coming days, when these planets are in close aspect to natal infant Sun at 0? Taurus and 5th house will likely increase the strains on the Israeli government quite a bit. Thor From: Cosmologer To: "samva@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 11:42 AM Subject: [SAMVA] Re: The USA in the middle of worsening situation between Israel - Iran [2 Attachments] Hello list, Earlier it was predicted that an outbreak of hostilities involving Iran and Israel was not so likely during the summer, at least based on an analysis of the respective horoscopes of Iran and Israel. In the fall and winter of 2012, this seems set to change as explained below. Here is the latest from the Israeli press on this story - which suggests a more dramatic stance between the Israeli and Iranian leaders than reported in the US press. While we should take Debka file with a grain of salt, as it tends to suggest a more harsh outcome than is actually realised, this time may be different. The Obama administration is hoping to stave off any conflict before the election. Meanwhile, the Israelis, which are frustrated at Obama's insistence to seek a peaceful resolution of such a serious matter as a state, Iran, getting its hands on nuclear weapons while advocating the anhialation of the Jewish state, may actually start hostilities to undermine the re-election chances of Obama. Certainly, Romney is advocating a more pro-Israeli stance (see below). So, it is possible the Israeli's may unilaterally attack Iran this fall. Khamenei Warns Iran?s Top Leaders: WAR IN WEEKS DEBKAfile DEBKA Video August 1, 2012, 8:54 AM (GMT+02:00) On July 27, just before Friday prayers, Iran?s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei summoned top Iranian military chiefs for what he called ?their last war council.? ?We?ll be at war within weeks,? he told the gathering, DEBKAfile?s exclusive Iranian and intelligence sources disclose. http://debka.com/article/22229/Khamenei ... R-IN-WEEKS Getting set for Iran war DEBKAfile DEBKA-Net-Weekly July 31, 2012, 7:04 PM (GMT+02:00) Iranian war preparations are on fast forward, as the coming issue ofDEBKA-Net-Weekly discloses in detail next Friday. All their leaders face agonizing decisions in the weeks ahead. US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is on a tour of inspection to make sure US Middle East military forces are ready for an operation against Iran. Its timeline is now pared down to weeks because Iran's ongoing mega-fortifications threaten to make its nuclear facilities indestructible - even by American super-weapons. http://debka.com/article/22226/Getting- ... -Iran-war- Netanyahu: I won?t let Israel face an Iranian atomic threatDEBKAfile Special Report July 31, 2012, 9:51 PM (GMT+02:00) Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said Tuesday, July 31, that he hasn?t yet reached a decision on attacking Iran, but added: ?The ayatollahs have inscribed Israel?s destruction on their banner.? He stressed his personal commitment ?not to permit Israel to come under Iranian atomic threat.? Netanyahu spoke shortly before US Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said upon landing in Israel that he is not going to discuss potential attack plans with Israeli leaders ? only ?various contingencies and how we would respond.? http://debka.com/article/22227/Netanyah ... mic-threat Mr. Romney Stumps in Israel NY Times - July 30, 2012 Mitt Romney made a point of insisting that he would adhere to an unwritten rule and often violated rule about candidates not criticizing each other or contradicting American foreign policy on foreign soil. About the only effort he made to keep that promise during his stop in Israel was to avoid mentioning President Obama by name.Beyond that, with some of the biggest investors in Republican politics in tow, Mr. Romney made no effort to disguise the target and intent of rhetoric that was certainly inflammatory but largely free of any sense of how we would carry out policies he was championing. The message ? on Iran, Jerusalem, the Palestinians ? was all anti-Obama: Mr. Romney would be a much better friend to Israel than Mr. Obama ever could be. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/31/opini ... srael.html Astrologically, the 23? Cancer rising horoscope for Iran shows Jupiter-Jupiter period operating. Jupiter is the 6th lord of conflict. Although Jupiter is not natally afflicted, its dispositor, the Moon, is. It is therefore not unlikely, Iran will see major conflict in this period when Jupiter becomes involved in natal and transit afflictions. In August and September 2012, the following afflictions begin to take place: - transit Rahu begins to afflict natal Jupiter at 5? 30' Cancer and 1st house. - Transit nodes will enter stationary placement at 2? Scorpio and Taurus between October and December 2012, where Rahu also continues to afflict natal Jupiter. While the orb of affliction is over 3?, natal Jupiter is in weak strength on account of the affliction by MMP Saturn in the 2nd house to 1st lord Moon in the 11th house of the horoscope. The vehemence of the affliction of Saturn is increased as its own house and the house of its placement are afflicted by the nodal axis. -transit Jupiter becomes stationary at 22? Taurus in September and October 2012, conjunct the MEP of the 11th house, natally holding its dispositor, the Moon, as well as afflicting the 3rd, 5th and 7th houses. September 8-10 look like they may be problematic days, as 2nd lord Sun and 3rd lord Mercury will be conjunct natal Rahu in the 2nd house MEP, while transit Moon is first conjunct transit Jupiter and then enters the 12th house, which is natally afflicted by Ketu. So, indeed, the coming weeks look like they could be tense for Iran, with outright hostilities quite possible. In the SAMVA USA chart, the Venus-Mercury period is operating, placing an emphasis on diplomatic resolution of conflictual issues. Obama and Clinton are emphasising this approach in the Muslim world, where many other countries futures are at stake, like Syria and Egypt. The station of Jupiter on the MEP of the 11th house suggests conflict involving friends, like Israel. Now let us look at the 21? Capricorn horoscope for Israel. Mars-Saturn period is operating until November 17, 2012, when the Mars-Mercury period begins. Saturn is the 2nd lord of status in the MEP of the 7th house of foreign policy, suggestive of the international influence of Israel, much beyond its small size. This is linked to the powerful Jewish lobby around the world, not least in the USA - a fact Mr. Ahmedinejad, President of Iran, has made much of. Mercury is the 9th lord placed in the MEP of the 5th house of creativity and management, where it aspects the 11th house of friends. Indeed, Israel is blessed by a strong friend, the USA. It is likely, the USA will come to the aid of Israel, especially after the elections, which would explain the growing domestic unrest linked to the transit station of Saturn on natal Ketu in the 4th house from December 2012 to Mars 2013. The transits in the Israeli chart are there, suggestive of conflict. Transit 12th lord Jupiter will become stationary in the MEP of the 5th house, from where it will aspect the 9th house, 11th house and 1st house. Jupiter is natally placed in its own 12th house from where it afflicts the 4th lord Mars in the 8th house. This aspect suggests conflict of a religious nature involving many obstacles and endings for Israeli land and military. In fact, Israel has been in a constant struggle to establish a home land in Palestine since WW II - involving much suffering to the population as well as the military. In the fall, the transit nodes will become conjunct natal 8th lord Sun at 0? 50' Taurus, placing enormous strain for the Israeli government and leader. This affliction also links into the natal affliction of 4th lord placed in the 8th house, suggesting much trouble for Israel over its dispute over lands. To top it off, transit 2nd lord Saturn will become conjunct the natal nodes at 21? Libra and Aries, suggesting problems for its status in late 2012 and early 2013. Likely, an uproar in the USA will result in the special relationship between the USA and Israeli being downplayed at that time. This is, of course, a very speculative reading of how the astrological influences may play out. Certainly, we do not really know what is happening beyond what the news papers suggest. That said, list members may find it of interest to try to understand how the astrological influences may play out in real world events. Other viewpoints on the possible developments are as ever welcome. Thor From: Cosmologer To: "samva@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 5:54 PM Subject: The USA in the middle of worsening situation between Israel - Iran Hello list, It seems tensions with regard to the situation in Iran is heating up. Israeli PM says time running out to stop Iran's nuclear programme guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 1 August 2012 16.13 BST Time is running out for the international community to halt Iran's nuclear programme by peaceful means, the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, told US defence secretary Leon Panetta in Jerusalem on Wednesday. Sanctions, diplomacy and declarations of a willingness to take military action as a last resort had not yet convinced the Iranians to stop their programme, he said. "However forceful our statements, they have not convinced Iran that we are serious about stopping them. Right now the Iranian regime believes that the international community does not have the will to stop its nuclear programme." Netanyahu said earlier that although sanctions were hurting the Iranian economy, such measures had "yet to move its nuclear programme even a millimetre backwards". http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/au ... -programme U.S. and Israel Intensify Talks on Iran Options NY Times - August 1, 2012 ASHKELON, Israel ? A series of public statements and private communications from the Israeli leadership in recent weeks set off renewed concerns in the Obama administration that Israel might be preparing a unilateral military strike on Iran, perhaps as early as this fall. But after a flurry of high-level visits, including one by Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta to Israel on Wednesday, a number of administration officials say they remain hopeful that Israel has no imminent plans to attack and may be willing to let the United States take the lead in any future military strike, which they say would not occur until next year at the earliest. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/world ... ml?_r=2&hp Ahmadinejad: World forces must annihilate Israel Jerusalem Post - 08/02/2012 15:49 In a speech published on his website Thursday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said the ultimate goal of world forces must be the annihilation of Israel. Speaking to ambassadors from Islamic countries ahead of 'Qods Day' ('Jerusalem Day'), an annual Iranian anti-Zionist event established in 1979 by Ayatollah Khomeini and which falls this year on August 17, Ahmadinejad said that a "horrible Zionist current" had been managing world affairs for "about 400 years." Repeating traditional anti-Semitic slurs, the Iranian president accused "Zionists" of controlling the world's media and financial systems. It was Zionists, he said, who were ?behind the scene of the world?s main powers, media, monetary and banking centers.? http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News ... ?id=279864 There are two aspects to watch out in the SAMVA USA chart in coming months in terms of conflict or harmful events: 1) September - November 2012: transit 6th lord Jupiter is conjunct 11th house MEP. 2) January-March 2013: transit 8th lord Saturn conjunct natal Ketu at 17? 47' Libra and 4th house. The 1st aspect is easier, as it involves a lesser functional malefic planet which only casts a mild affliction to 1st lord Moon in the chart. Moreover, the stationary affliction is not exact and it does not involve a mutual affliction. Hence, here we are at most likely to see some increased conflict, likely linked to the election (no surprise there), which is bound to be hard fought, but conflict over incomes is also possible, as well as conflict involving a friend, as the 11th house indicates friendships, and Israel is a long standing friend of the USA. The 2nd aspect is far worse as it involves Saturn as the Most Malefic Planet (MMP) in the horoscope and it mutually afflicts natal Ketu and Rahu, which is a severe affliction. Even if Saturn is fairly strong in this chart, its indications are likely to receive a setback at that time. Moreover, as both the nodes afflict in the chart, with Ketu afflicting the 4th, 8th, 10th and 12th houses in the horoscope and Rahu natally afflicts the 10th, 2nd, 4th and 6th houses. As Saturn afflicts the nodes, these natal combination are brought into focus and activated. The 4th house is ruled by Venus, which is weak due to its natal placement in the 6th house, which is afflicted by Rahu. Even if Venus has a strong dispositor, Jupiter, the indications of this house will become especially vulnerable at that time. The domestic harmony is likely to be upset at this time, due to some obstacles and endings, manipulations or isolation involving disadvantaged groups in US society, or US military involvement abroad. Sudden harmful events are possible. Weather conditions could become very icy. Mining activities could receive a deadly setback. Older and low paid working people could see major problems. Thor __._,_.___

Hi Damon,

Your post is very hard to follow as its just a single block of text without any paragraphs.

Also its usually better to just give the hyperlinks or offer a summary yourself rather than cut and paste the entire news story.

You might want to consider making a post over on the mundane forum too. This topic is of interest there.

regards

Mark