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There is another chart for Russia which seems to fit best IMO. It's done for the signing of the agreement of the Minsk Declaration on 8th of December 1991 at 14:17 EET (Campion) which decided the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

Relocated to Moscow the Moon/Uranus/Neptun-Konjunction in the 9th house (uprising of people in a foreign country) is hit by the grand cross at the moment.

The chechen war happened around the time of Tr. Pluto in conjunction with N. Mars on the DC among others.
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hi sc,
thanks for posting the chart. it is interesting relocating this event chart to moscow. thanks for doing that. i haven't worked any with this chart you point to, or the relocated to moscow chart which you have shared here.

here is the same chart relocated to washington dc.

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Southern Cross wrote:Which chart do most russian astrologers use? Any russian astrologers in this forum here?
hi sc. i was reminded of our conversation from a few months ago earlier today via a person on marjorie orr's site named BAA who shared this :

"To James. Yes, I am a Russian astrologer with 30 years experience at mundane and political astrology, astrology of disasters. And, of course, I know the charts of Russia and their performance better than Marjorie and other European or American astrologers.
Yes, the majority of Russian astrologers for analyzing current events use the chart of Russia at 9:45 GMT June 12, 1990. About V. Putin I can say that he was born on October 7, 1952 at 5:46 GMT in Leningrad (chart rectified)."


i have asked them the basis for the rectification on putin's chart, but in the meantime i thought i would share this based on my exchange with this person.

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Many thanks for your update, James. :D Sorry for replying so late but I did not look into this section of the forum for a while. I have now clicked on the "watch this thread" button so I won't miss anything anymore.

From Wikipedia:
"The First Congress of People's Deputies of the Russian Federation adopted the Declaration of State Sovereignty of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic on June 12, 1990". It's an national holiday and called "Russia Day".

Using this chart the recent Grand Cross did aspect Neptun in the 4th house and ruler of the 7th (relations with other countries). Natal Jupiter is right opposite neptun.


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