Would an out of sign eclipse conjunction count? 1 by StellarTiggy The eclipse at 29* Pisces is hitting some of my Aries planets in the early degrees. Would there be an effect or does the planet have to be in late Pisces? Quote Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:29 am
2 by Mark StellarTiggy wrote: The eclipse at 29* Pisces is hitting some of my Aries planets in the early degrees. Would there be an effect or does the planet have to be in late Pisces? As I recall ancient astrologers considered a Ptolemaic aspect 3 degrees across the sign boundary while renaissance astrologers like William Lilly used the moeity orbs of applying aspects across signs. But of course a conjunction isn't an applying aspect or indeed a Ptolemic aspect. At the moment of full eclipse both bodies will only be in one sign. However, its worth pointing out Pisces and Aries are signs connected in a non-aspectual way as they both mirror each other inversely across the equinox in terms of increasing/decreasing daylight hours. In later renaissance astrology this was described as a contra-antiscion. For example 30 Pisces corresponds to 0 Aries. 29 Pisces relates to 01 Aries since the daylight hours of one degree equals the nightime hours of the other. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/antiscia.html http://www.skyscript.co.uk/antiscia.html The traditional view is that such non-aspectual connections (contra-antiscions) are rather difficult. Lilly compares them as similar to a square or opposition in effect. In the article I gave the link to above Deborah Houlding explains the astrological logic why traditionally antiscion connections are seen as harmonious and contra-antiscion connections more difficult. Antiscion gives us instead a notion of 'likeness' based upon the similarity of the degree of the zodiac as it relates to rising times and the equality of days and nights. In contra-antiscia, it is based upon an inverse reflection because the days of one are mirrored by the night of the other. With antiscion a more immediately equivalent factor is involved; with contra-antiscion it is an opposing principle so the relationship is more difficult or antipathetic. These philosophical principles tally with William Lilly's assessment: "as there are antiscia, which of the good planets we think are equal to a sextile or trine, so there are contra-antiscions, which we find to be of the nature of a square or opposition". Mark As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly Quote Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:54 pm