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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:24 pm    Post subject: Theresa May-Chart For Becoming UK Prime Minister Reply with quote

According to the BBC live thread, the moment when she asked the Queen to stablish a government in her name.


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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Yuzuru,

This is not the correct time. I watched this on live BBC TV broadcast and web updates.

17:25 BST Theresa May enters Buckingham Palace

17:41 BST BBC transmit pictures of Theresa May curtseying before Queen and accepting office.

There is is a few minutes time delay for these pictures to be put out for press release so 17:35 seems about right. The MC has just moved into Libra matching UK ASC in 1801 chart and May's Libra Sun.





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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:14 pm    Post subject: Time of Handover Reply with quote

Hi - I went for 17:40 based on BBC website, but 17:35 seems OK. The chart is very interesting. The challenge is that the final aspect of the Moon is conjunct a very powerful Mars in dignity in the twelfth. The Moon does not perfect the trine to Mercury before Mercury leaves Cancer. Mercury is therefore VOC.

Given that the Moon in mundane astrology represents the people, the final aspect suggests her government may attract the wrath of the people in the final analysis.
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Astralwanderer wrote:
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Hi - I went for 17:40 based on BBC website, but 17:35 seems OK.


The BBC put out a picture taken on their website at 17:41 but unless the staff are superhumanly fast I assume it takes at least 5 mins to get it put out!

There has already been quite a bit of discussion on the time on mundane Facebook groups. Rod Chang and I are using 17:35. Although, one astrologer claims to be able to read the Queens wristwatch which she is adamant says 17:30 BST! lol.

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The chart is very interesting. The challenge is that the final aspect of the Moon is conjunct a very powerful Mars in dignity in the twelfth. The Moon does not perfect the trine to Mercury before Mercury leaves Cancer. Mercury is therefore VOC.

Given that the Moon in mundane astrology represents the people, the final aspect suggests her government may attract the wrath of the people in the final analysis.


Thanks. That is a thought provoking comment regard the Moon and wrath of the people! I will take a deeper look at the chart myself on Thursday.

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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:30 am    Post subject: Time of handover Reply with quote

Hi - for some reason this went into a new thread - apols!

Hi again. I have heard about the 17:30 time. If this is the case it brings the last degree of Virgo to the MC. My intuition is that this would be very difficult for the new government as the ruler, Mercury, is VOC and just about to leave Cancer for Leo. If this time is true, we should see the symbolism played out quickly with difficult times for the government.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Twitter

Chris Mason ? @ChrisMasonBBC
Theresa May becomes the 13th Prime Minister of the Queen's reign
1:54 PM - 13 Jul 2016

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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siderum wrote:
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The Twitter
Chris Mason ? @ChrisMasonBBC
Theresa May becomes the 13th Prime Minister of the Queen's reign
1:54 PM - 13 Jul 2016


Hi Mario

No this time is clearly wrong. Its out by hours!

Remember this was done on live TV here in the United Kingdom. Just to cover all the times:

17:20. The announcement that the queen had accepted David Cameron's resignation.
17.21: Theresa May left for the palace from Westminster.
17:25: Theresa May arrives at Buckingham Palace and enters bulding.
17:41: BBC website show picture of Theresa May curtseying to Queen.
17:42: The announcement is made that TM had accepted the job.
17:57: Theresa May left Buckingham Palace
17:58: Buckigham Palace made their announcement.
1801: Theresa May arrived at No 10
18:02: Theresa May started her first speech
18:07: Theresa May entered number 10 Downing Street

The MC was on TM's sun at her speech and was over Uranus of the 1801 chart at the changeover.

So we know that sometime after 17:25 and before 17:40 she met the Queen and accepted the offer to lead the government. On the exact time the discussion has only been whether go for 17:30 or 17:35. Normally, this wouldn't matter much but the MC changed from Virgo to Libra at 17:33.

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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All,

My eyseight is not brilliant but we now have a photo of the clock behind Theresa May and the Queen. Is the clock behind them at 17:30?

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/resources/images/5275364/

You can zoom in on the clock.

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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find the opposition from Pluto in the second to the Sun in the 8th pretty
intriguing, and wonder what it might mean (considering the impact Pluto
seems to be having on the Capricorn structures of government recently)
I sense an exposure of secrets - will she not tolerate any manipulations
(especially in the financial world, she already mentioned tax) or will it be the other way around, that the government will end up being very secretive and eventually exposed by Pluto.
does anyone have any idea.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, mark ..... I apologize for the confusion generated.
Sincerely
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mark,

quite difficult to tell - but you know it looks like it might be, the second hand

definitely doesn't seem (to me at least) to be past the half-past mark
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks mark and others for trying to define the time of mays new position.. the clock looks like 5:29pm or thereabouts.. that would give 2 sag rising.. sun/moon midpoint either way is 15 virgo 41, very close to the nodal axis and perhaps subject to the upcoming eclipse data late summer.. the midheaven at 28 virgo is exactly on her natal mercury the ascendant is exactly on her own natal nodal axis.. this is all relevant if this is the time for use only!

a note on twitter times.. twitter time stamps are essentially useless so far as i have been able to tell.. no one seems to know how the time is given - a persons local time, or?

as for a rectified birth time for may, i presently gravitate towards cap rising - 3pm area.. will continue to ponder the idea..
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sally wrote:
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I find the opposition from Pluto in the second to the Sun in the 8th pretty
intriguing, and wonder what it might mean (considering the impact Pluto
seems to be having on the Capricorn structures of government recently)
I sense an exposure of secrets - will she not tolerate any manipulations
(especially in the financial world, she already mentioned tax) or will it be the other way around, that the government will end up being very secretive and eventually exposed by Pluto. does anyone have any idea.


May I say first off Sally welcome to the Skyscript forum and the mundane area in particular. You are most welcome.

Personally, as Pluto is Rx and the opposition is separating by 5 degrees I wouldn't give it so much attention. When I have some time I will offer a delineation of my own.

Anyway, keep posting and sharing your thoughts.

regards,

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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok, mark ..... I apologize for the confusion generated.
Sincerely
Mario


No problem Mario. No need to apologise. I have learned not to trust Twitter feeds here. When we were discussing the chart for Islamic state here they caused a nightmare of confusion all round!

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