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[quote="waybread"][quote="SGFoxe"]the Romans of the period of Augustus's birth 63 bc ... eg before Julius changed the calendar from lunar based to solar prefaced by the 445 day year of confusion 46BC they defined themselves by their lunar sign rather than solar sign ... which, in Octavian's case determined him as a solar Virgo rather than a Libra, his birthdate being cuspy ... his father had his chart done at his birth and was early proclaimed Caesar's heir ... Julius was a full moon type with his moon also in Capricorn ... ... the cap moon could have been conjunct Livia's sun, rectifying her chart difficult, she may have been an Aquarian ... but given the sudden nature of the start of their scandalous relationship, moon conjunct her sun believable.[/quote]

This is fascinating, because the Babylonian zodiac went by the path of the moon, rather than the sun. At some point during a little-known period of ancient astrology, horoscopic astrology became solar-based.

Can you post some references on your information?[/quote]

Primarily ... Suetonius and Plutarch, Tactitus ... and lots of other history books and classes. The academic historians not sure of Julius Caesar's birth year. Most like 100 BC. Theodor Mommsen holds with 102 BC and I agree with him. His birth on the Feast of Apollo ... eg the full moon of Cancer, somewhat past the full just after sundown ... from Suetonius's description about his eccentric dress ... aquarius rising. Anthony Barrett and Anthony Everett are biographers of Julio Claudians ... slews of stuff. Including academic tomes on Roman calendrics, read on a sleepy saturday afternoon in a college library. The shift in Rome via Caesar in 45 BC from a lunar based calendar to a solar base is probably reflected astrologically in delineation. Pre-solar calendar, people were born days before or after the Kalends or Ides (new and full) moon ... eg ides of march refered to the 15th day of the lunar month which is around the full moon.