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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:57 pm    Post subject: Almuten of Marriage Reply with quote

I'm experimenting with the Almuten of Marriage.
Bonatti says it is taken from - together with the cusp of the 7th and the L7 and the part of Marriage- Venus and Moon.
My question is WHAT ABOUT WOMEN?
Should we consider the same planets Venus and Moon or should we take Mars and the Sun? Lilly explicitly says "First, their Significators are Sun and Mars who in Womens Nativities have most signification. Secondly, the 7th house and Lord thereof.
Thirdly, the Planet or Planets in the 7th." CA book III
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd use Mars and the Sun. Old astrology is pretty patriarchal. Women weren't considered as decision makers when it came to the marital arrangements. So update the technique.
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom wrote:
I'd use Mars and the Sun. Old astrology is pretty patriarchal. Women weren't considered as decision makers when it came to the marital arrangements. So update the technique.


Thanks for the reply, Tom. It makes more sense to me too. Did something like that with Morinus with: 7th house, L7, planets in the 7th, Mars, Saturn, Part of Marriage (Asc+ venus-saturn - in the day )
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think mens part of marriage is calculated from saturn to venus the reverse for women this is hermes method which abu mashar favors over valens method
7th house almuten in the book of persian nativities by umar altabari is calculated in 5-6 steps it is quite long process makes you wonder those ancient astrologers had much free time or that isthe only thing they do for living
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hsn1983 wrote:
those ancient astrologers had much free time or that isthe only thing they do for living

Think so too Smile
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