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john



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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:59 pm    Post subject: Aintree Festival Reply with quote

I said I’d try and do something for the Aintree Festival, for some light entertainment and it may be of interest for anyone watching the races.

I’ll just cover the televised races. There are various methods which I’ve listed; hopefully these can be compared in some way as the results become known (!)

Some of the methods move a house cusp or MC forward by primary motion, some just involve the closest aspect irrespective of applying or separating. It is a matter of individual preference as to what planets and aspects are used.

Some methods I’ve not included, for example Sepharial and also looking at the dispositor of the dispositor (see Bonatti, Treatise 7, page 654).

Al-Kindi is left in and I’ve added the second part of his commentary. The second part is framed around what would have occurred in the ninth century. I have some initial thoughts as to how these translate today but I provide a basic original description.

I also include the Ascending Degree based on trainers and jockeys. I’ll comment some more on this in the Cheltenham thread.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aintree Thu 14.20

Addey 5th : NNode/Mercury - Divin Bere

MC 10th : Mercury(same degree) /Neptune – Divin Bere

Closest Aspect: Mercury/MC, Mars/Pluto – Defi Du Seuil

Angles: MC/Mercury, Asc/Moon – Flying Tiger

Al-Kindi: Decan Saturn/Saturn/Venus – Darker than average of the field, no particular markings. (Hour ruler due to change 1 minute, see next race)

Al-Kindi Hour Lord - winner runs at steady pace, owner is young.

Asc Degree : Fix 20.(With Moon – Defi Du Seuil, Flying Tiger)
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aintree Thu 14.50

Addey 5th : Neptune – Silviniaco Conti

MC 10th : Neptune – Silviniaco Conti

Closest Aspect: Mars/Pluto – Empire of Dirt

Angles: MC/Neptune, Asc/Uranus – Silviniaco Conti

Al-Kindi Decan: Jupiter/Saturn/Sun – lighter than average colour with shiny coat, no particular markings.

Al-Kindi Hour Lord – younger horse, runs crooked, well mannered, owner is Jupiterian and seen to be someone’s ally.

Asc Degree : Fix 25. Empire of Dirt
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aintree Thu 15.25

Addey 5th : Pluto/Mars – Identity Thief

MC 10th : Moon - ?

Closest Aspect : Mars/Pluto – Identity Thief

Angles : Asc/NNode, MC/Mars – The New One

Al-Kindi Decan: Hour Jupiter, see above. Mars hour 1 minute, see next race.

Al-Kindi Hour Lord – see previous race

Asc Degree : Mut 1. (also with Node) – Too many options. Buveur D’air, but this disregards the Node.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aintree Thu 16.05

Addey 5th : Venus – Pacha Du Polder, with female jockey, (with aspect to Saturn - Poole Master)

MC 10th : NNode/Mercury/Neptune – Mr Mercurial

Closest Aspect : Mars/Pluto – Rebel Rebellion, Black Thunder

Angles: MC/NNode, Asc/Mercury/Neptune - Mr Mercurial

Al-Kindi Decan: Mars/Moon/Moon – Light chestnut with markings on lower body/legs.

Al-Kindi Hour Lord – middle age range, not attractive, runs straight, owner is martial and a proposer of laws.

Asc Degree : Mut 8. Big Fella Thanks, Pacha Du Polder, Rebel Rebellion, Mendip Express
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aintree Thu 16.40

Addey 5th : Neptune – Theinval, Bun Doran

MC 10th : Neptune – Theinval, Bun Doran

Closest Aspect: Mars/Pluto – Rock on Rocky, Ravens Tower, Foxtail Hill.

Angles : MC/Neptune/Mercury, Asc/Neptune – Double W’s.

Al-Kindi Decan: Sun/Sun/Jupiter – somewhat lighter than the field, darker mane and legs with markings on face.

Al-Kindi Hour Lord - one of the older horses, well mannered, runs straight; owner is known, or partner is known.

Asc Degree Mut 14. Yorkist
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the great works! I was quite surprised by how mercury today's races were... even though moon has not moved into virgo.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Hera,

I list the various methods with suggestions in the hope that one may resonate with the people who read this thread. Possibly some techniques will be seen to be more popular than others.

I understand today I found short odds winners and high odds placed horses.

Tomorrows picks to follow!
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aintree Fri 14.20

Addey 5th : Mercury - The Unit

MC 10th : POF/Neptune – High Secret

Closest Aspect : Moon/Mercury – Moon Racer

Angles : Asc/Mars, MC/Mercury/Moon – Mount Mews, Moon Racer.

Al-Kindi Decan: Sun/Sun/Jupiter, somewhat lighter than the field, darker mane and legs with markings on face. Hour ruler changes 1 minute, see next race.

Al-Kindi Hour Lord: Runs straight, owner learned person (see Moon Racer)

Asc Degree : Fix 21. Mount Mews, River Wylde, Pingshou
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aintree Fri 14.50

Addey 5th : Neptune - Marinero

MC 10th : Neptune/POF/Sun - Marinero

Closest Aspect: Sun/Jupiter - Virgilio

Angles : Asc/Saturn/Uranus, MC/Neptune/POF – Might Bite, Whisper

Al-Kindi Decan: Venus/Mars/Saturn – darker than average in the field and no markings.

Al-Kindi Hour Lord – runs crooked ( see last race at Cheltenham between Might Bite and Whisper!), arab connection, owner partner is known

Asc Degree : Fix 26. Virgilio, Callett Mad.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aintree Fri 15.25

Addey 5th : Mars – Sub Lieutenant, Fox Norton

MC 10th : Uranus – Gods Own

Closest Aspect : Sun/Jupiter – Royal Regatta

Angles : Asc/NNode/Mercury/Moon, MC/Mars – Traffic Fluide, see Mars above.

Al-Kindi Decan: Venus hour, see above. Hour ruler changes in 2 minutes, see next race.

Al-Kindi Hour Lord – runs crooked, owners spouse known

Asc Degree : Mut 2. Traffic Fluide.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aintree Fri 16.05

Addey 5th : NNode/Mercury – Bouvreuil, Quite by Chance, Thomas Brown

MC 10th : NNode/Mercury – see above

Closest Aspect : Sun/Jupiter – Gold Present, Ultragold, Solar Impulse

Angles: MC/NNode/Mercury, Asc/Moon/Neptune – Bouvreuil, Seefood

Al-Kindi Decan: Mercury/Mercury/Moon – no distinctive marks, ash coloured.

Al-Kindi Hour Lord – runs straight, syndicate owners

Asc Degree: Mut 9. Too many to narrow the field. I’m not yet at the stage of deciding who has the advantage at this degree! Trainer- Henderson and Twiston Davies. Jockey – Bowen, Twiston Davies and Geraghty.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aintree Fri 16.40

Addey 5th : Neptune – Worlds End, Constantine Bay, Get on the Yager, Beyond Conceit

MC 10th : Neptune – see above

Closest Aspect : Sun/Jupiter - Testify

Angles : MC/Neptune/Moon, Asc/Neptune – Constantine Bay, West Approach (on descendant)

Al-Kindi Decan: Moon/Sun/Mercury – Paler colour, with various markings, lighter to body/mane.

Al-Kindi Hour Lord – young horse, female owner, possibly not popular!

Asc Degree : Mut 15 Beyond Conceit
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

john wrote:
Thanks Hera,

I list the various methods with suggestions in the hope that one may resonate with the people who read this thread. Possibly some techniques will be seen to be more popular than others.

I understand today I found short odds winners and high odds placed horses.

Tomorrows picks to follow!


Hi John
Interestingly, jockey Barry Geraghty who won today's 2:20, 3:25 with both fav horses will be riding four races tomo, including another 3:25 Uxizandre . Would be fun to follow.
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are my selections using JAM (John Addey Method) for today.

13:40 Sumkindofking - Quincunx ant. 10th Moon, conj MC
14:20 Moon Racer - Quincunx Mercury, trine Moon L12, trine 5th
15:25 God's Own - Quincunx 9th Mars L9, conj. MC
16:40 The World's End - Semisextile ant. Pluto, conj. IC in 4th - alternatively Constantine Bay (NAP), same aspects.
17:15 - King of Realms - Square Sun L12, opp Jupiter L4
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