Aintree Festival 1 by john I said I?d try and do something for the Aintree Festival, for some light entertainment and it may be of interest for anyone watching the races. I?ll just cover the televised races. There are various methods which I?ve listed; hopefully these can be compared in some way as the results become known (!) Some of the methods move a house cusp or MC forward by primary motion, some just involve the closest aspect irrespective of applying or separating. It is a matter of individual preference as to what planets and aspects are used. Some methods I?ve not included, for example Sepharial and also looking at the dispositor of the dispositor (see Bonatti, Treatise 7, page 654). Al-Kindi is left in and I?ve added the second part of his commentary. The second part is framed around what would have occurred in the ninth century. I have some initial thoughts as to how these translate today but I provide a basic original description. I also include the Ascending Degree based on trainers and jockeys. I?ll comment some more on this in the Cheltenham thread. Quote Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:59 pm
2 by john Aintree Thu 14.20 Addey 5th : NNode/Mercury - Divin Bere MC 10th : Mercury(same degree) /Neptune ? Divin Bere Closest Aspect: Mercury/MC, Mars/Pluto ? Defi Du Seuil Angles: MC/Mercury, Asc/Moon ? Flying Tiger Al-Kindi: Decan Saturn/Saturn/Venus ? Darker than average of the field, no particular markings. (Hour ruler due to change 1 minute, see next race) Al-Kindi Hour Lord - winner runs at steady pace, owner is young. Asc Degree : Fix 20.(With Moon ? Defi Du Seuil, Flying Tiger) Quote Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:00 pm
3 by john Aintree Thu 14.50 Addey 5th : Neptune ? Silviniaco Conti MC 10th : Neptune ? Silviniaco Conti Closest Aspect: Mars/Pluto ? Empire of Dirt Angles: MC/Neptune, Asc/Uranus ? Silviniaco Conti Al-Kindi Decan: Jupiter/Saturn/Sun ? lighter than average colour with shiny coat, no particular markings. Al-Kindi Hour Lord ? younger horse, runs crooked, well mannered, owner is Jupiterian and seen to be someone?s ally. Asc Degree : Fix 25. Empire of Dirt Quote Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:01 pm
4 by john Aintree Thu 15.25 Addey 5th : Pluto/Mars ? Identity Thief MC 10th : Moon - ? Closest Aspect : Mars/Pluto ? Identity Thief Angles : Asc/NNode, MC/Mars ? The New One Al-Kindi Decan: Hour Jupiter, see above. Mars hour 1 minute, see next race. Al-Kindi Hour Lord ? see previous race Asc Degree : Mut 1. (also with Node) ? Too many options. Buveur D?air, but this disregards the Node. Quote Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:02 pm
5 by john Aintree Thu 16.05 Addey 5th : Venus ? Pacha Du Polder, with female jockey, (with aspect to Saturn - Poole Master) MC 10th : NNode/Mercury/Neptune ? Mr Mercurial Closest Aspect : Mars/Pluto ? Rebel Rebellion, Black Thunder Angles: MC/NNode, Asc/Mercury/Neptune - Mr Mercurial Al-Kindi Decan: Mars/Moon/Moon ? Light chestnut with markings on lower body/legs. Al-Kindi Hour Lord ? middle age range, not attractive, runs straight, owner is martial and a proposer of laws. Asc Degree : Mut 8. Big Fella Thanks, Pacha Du Polder, Rebel Rebellion, Mendip Express Quote Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:04 pm
6 by john Aintree Thu 16.40 Addey 5th : Neptune ? Theinval, Bun Doran MC 10th : Neptune ? Theinval, Bun Doran Closest Aspect: Mars/Pluto ? Rock on Rocky, Ravens Tower, Foxtail Hill. Angles : MC/Neptune/Mercury, Asc/Neptune ? Double W?s. Al-Kindi Decan: Sun/Sun/Jupiter ? somewhat lighter than the field, darker mane and legs with markings on face. Al-Kindi Hour Lord - one of the older horses, well mannered, runs straight; owner is known, or partner is known. Asc Degree Mut 14. Yorkist Quote Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:06 pm
7 by hera Thank you for the great works! I was quite surprised by how mercury today's races were... even though moon has not moved into virgo. Quote Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:23 pm
8 by john Thanks Hera, I list the various methods with suggestions in the hope that one may resonate with the people who read this thread. Possibly some techniques will be seen to be more popular than others. I understand today I found short odds winners and high odds placed horses. Tomorrows picks to follow! Quote Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:10 pm
9 by john Aintree Fri 14.20 Addey 5th : Mercury - The Unit MC 10th : POF/Neptune ? High Secret Closest Aspect : Moon/Mercury ? Moon Racer Angles : Asc/Mars, MC/Mercury/Moon ? Mount Mews, Moon Racer. Al-Kindi Decan: Sun/Sun/Jupiter, somewhat lighter than the field, darker mane and legs with markings on face. Hour ruler changes 1 minute, see next race. Al-Kindi Hour Lord: Runs straight, owner learned person (see Moon Racer) Asc Degree : Fix 21. Mount Mews, River Wylde, Pingshou Quote Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:14 pm
10 by john Aintree Fri 14.50 Addey 5th : Neptune - Marinero MC 10th : Neptune/POF/Sun - Marinero Closest Aspect: Sun/Jupiter - Virgilio Angles : Asc/Saturn/Uranus, MC/Neptune/POF ? Might Bite, Whisper Al-Kindi Decan: Venus/Mars/Saturn ? darker than average in the field and no markings. Al-Kindi Hour Lord ? runs crooked ( see last race at Cheltenham between Might Bite and Whisper!), arab connection, owner partner is known Asc Degree : Fix 26. Virgilio, Callett Mad. Quote Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:14 pm
11 by john Aintree Fri 15.25 Addey 5th : Mars ? Sub Lieutenant, Fox Norton MC 10th : Uranus ? Gods Own Closest Aspect : Sun/Jupiter ? Royal Regatta Angles : Asc/NNode/Mercury/Moon, MC/Mars ? Traffic Fluide, see Mars above. Al-Kindi Decan: Venus hour, see above. Hour ruler changes in 2 minutes, see next race. Al-Kindi Hour Lord ? runs crooked, owners spouse known Asc Degree : Mut 2. Traffic Fluide. Quote Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:15 pm
12 by john Aintree Fri 16.05 Addey 5th : NNode/Mercury ? Bouvreuil, Quite by Chance, Thomas Brown MC 10th : NNode/Mercury ? see above Closest Aspect : Sun/Jupiter ? Gold Present, Ultragold, Solar Impulse Angles: MC/NNode/Mercury, Asc/Moon/Neptune ? Bouvreuil, Seefood Al-Kindi Decan: Mercury/Mercury/Moon ? no distinctive marks, ash coloured. Al-Kindi Hour Lord ? runs straight, syndicate owners Asc Degree: Mut 9. Too many to narrow the field. I?m not yet at the stage of deciding who has the advantage at this degree! Trainer- Henderson and Twiston Davies. Jockey ? Bowen, Twiston Davies and Geraghty. Quote Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:17 pm