46 by Mari petosiris wrote: Valens 9.2K says it indicates the children of the wife, because it is V from VII. Thanks for the reference! Note that there is slight chance that all children were assigned to the XI because of the joy of Jupiter That's what I think possible too. And, I think, because of such a broad positive meaning of the house which, besides, overlaps much with MC for the general positive "social achievements". Having children is a kind of a social achievement. P.S. Saturn indicates step-children and adoption in Hellenistic astrology. Makes sense too, since Saturn is so often related (when participating) to "second-choice and flawed wives" *** Well, anyway, here it was solely to see which of the two possible Maduro charts fits better in the three step-sons picture. So I just took a look at the 5th from the 7th. Thanks for the reference to Valens. Quote Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:35 pm
47 by james_m mari - derivative houses... yes - i understand and think they are relevant! petosiris - thanks for your comments on the topic of 11th house and children... Quote Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:35 pm