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Crypto Currencies - A necessary new Wealth Store?
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Rocko



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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:00 pm    Post subject: Crypto Currencies - A necessary new Wealth Store? Reply with quote

Hi,

We need a Thread on this. Especially with Uranus starting its move towards Taurus early in the New Year.

Here's a very good discussion.

http://www.omegaempire.net/series/newshour-extra-1301479/bitcoin-bubble-or-brave-new-world

H

PS I'm beginning to look at what drove the German Mark to be worthless in the 1920s

Wiki says this

"Calvin Coolidge (1923–29)[edit] - There is an ongoing debate between historians as to what extent President Calvin Coolidge's laissez-faire hands-off attitude has contributed to the Great Depression.

Despite a growing rate of bank failures he did not heed voices that predicted the lack of banking regulation as potentially dangerous.

He did not listen to members of Congress warning that stock speculation had gone too far and he ignored criticisms that workers did not participate sufficiently in the prosperity of the Roaring Twenties."
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Rocko



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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I understand about Economics the ECB, the European Central Bank, carries about 40% of European debt now.

You'd feel if that debt can't be paid back then the Euro becomes worthless.

"To pay for the large costs of the ongoing First World War, Germany suspended the gold standard (the convertibility of its currency to gold) when the war broke out. Unlike the French Third Republic, which imposed its first income tax to pay for the war, German Emperor Wilhelm II and the German parliament decided unanimously to fund the war entirely by borrowing,[1] a decision criticized by financial experts such as Hjalmar Schacht as a dangerous risk for currency devaluation.[2]"

My feeling is that the recovery in the Euroland has also been fueled by some sort of "smoke and mirrors" financing.

Like everything to do with borrowing if the returns aren't forthcoming then big trouble comes.

This is possibly why people have parked a lot of money in Bitcoin. Maybe ??

H

PS I'll just repeat why I think we need to try to discuss this and bring the Astro into it.

Three very big Cycles hit the low points in the next 2 weeks to 5 years.

1/ Saturn entering Capricorn - Aquarius
2/ Uranus entering Taurus
3/ Pluto entering Aquarius

This is backed up in Harry Dent's recent book called Zero Hour.

He believes we are in for a once in 250 year realignment similar to the Protestant Reformation and American Revolution.

I'm saying this will be clearly happening by Spring 2019.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:19 am    Post subject: cycles Reply with quote

Ray Merriman has related uranus to big ups and downs in certain industry. When Uranus went into pisces, oil went up. As uranus gradually left pisces and went into aries, oil then crashed. He saids that taurus rules banks so that banks will go up, do well, and then crash back down as uranus leaves taurus. AMY
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Rocko



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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wikipedia give 9th Jan 2009 as the Birth Date of the Bitcoin software.

Other dates before that relate to the idea.

18th Aug 2008 - a web domain.

31st Oct 2008 - relates to a theory paper.

With something as potentially lethal as Bitcoin then you'd have to look at what is going on over those months.

For me Pluto jumps out. There He or It is rolling across the last degrees of Sagittarius and the early degrees of Capricorn.

Comping at the bit to get in amongst Capricorn and settle some scores.

Capricorn ? Power ? And what is real power in the World we live in ? Capital ?

No surprise that out of the destruction that the Credit Crunch brought we get a new form of Money.

H

PS For me Taurus is about Feeling Comfortable, and to feel Comfortable you need to feel Secure.

To feel Secure you need to know that Your Wealth is Safe.

And just now there are real genuine questions about how safe the Euro is, or the Dollar, or the GBP etc ?

Also Gold ?

I think we are looking down the barrel of a Technological based Wealth Exchange vehicle.

It could be Cashless and it could be Crypto. Or both.

I think the Banks are going to be shaken up by Uranus.
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Rocko



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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we accept that Pluto plays a big role in Bitcoins then we can get some understanding why it has been going up recently.

[I do believe this as it has plenty of Pluto traits. Used a lot on the Dark Web. A threat to Authority. Power in itself. Mysterious etc ..]

That'd be Jupiter translating light from Neptune to Pluto, till the 15th Jan.

Setting aside Mars's involvement we'd expect a MASSIVE peak in Bitcoins around the 15th Jan.

Helpfully Mars is going to do something similar too and that might help us understand more about this. 10th Jan.

Mars is +VE but hard to see how it gets involved.

Um ?

H

PS We might have cracked it.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

were tulip bulbs around pluto too?
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Wikipedia give 9th Jan 2009 as the Birth Date of the Bitcoin


Curious. The dates that appear elsewhere as server records of transactions have 3 Jan 2009 and 11 Jan 2009.

I use the latter date relocated to Temple city (19:30:35 PST) the location of the receiver of the first transaction ( since no-one knows where it was sent from)

Pluto is definitely activating that chart. It is transiting the chart's progressed Mars and sextile its progressed Venus & Uranus

However, when Saturn goes into Capricorn it will conjoin the chart's Pluto at 1 degree Capricorn. I expect that to bring things back down to earth at least for a while
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Rocko



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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a very good point Amelia.

The question is then will an "Exalted" (sic) Saturn bring a +VE order to what seems to be a bit of Chaos ?

Also I'm guilty that I didn't understand that Bitcoin really is going to be a small part of this Blockchain idea.

One big worry is that to process Blockchain uses loads of Electricity.

And I've always got my eye on Uranus moving onto Taurus during 2018. That has to upset things.

H
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

more bitcoin pluto..

https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/bitcoins-of-zero-tolerance-digital-currency-in-criminal-world/

and also, i would like to draw your attention to a post on amelia's blog - who posts at skyscript from time to time.. she made this post in sept of this year.. lots of astro data towards the bottom of her post with regard to bitcoin and etc..

http://fortuna2020.blogspot.ca/2017/09/blockchain-bitcoin-and-future-of.html
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I make no predictions, having no knowledge of financial astrology but here's an interesting fact :-

On the day of the 1929 Stock Market crash Pluto was conjoining its own heliocentric North node at 19 Cancer (not exact to the minute).

Now Pluto has transited 180 degrees and the North node has moved to 20 Cancer. From 6th Feb 2018 Pluto will be at 20 Capricorn (heliocentric South node) until 18th March. For the rest of the year it moves between 21 Capricorn and 18 Capricorn and also in 2019.

So Pluto during 2018 and 2019 transits frequently over its heliocentric South node, opposite to its position in 1929.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here's something else :-

Despite the Oct 1929 crash the Dow Jones recovered some of its losses and then a bear market ensued with the Dow Jones reaching an all time low on 8th July 1932. On that day Pluto was at 21 Cancer which is both square the exaltation degree of Saturn and square the so called "shipwreck polarity" of the stars Baten Kaitos (22 Aries) and Foramen (22 Libra).

Note that Pluto will square those degrees from 21/22 Capricorn during 2018 and 2019. Also Saturn will soon enter Capricorn and reach that same square in Jan 2020 when it will conjoin Pluto at 22 Capricorn.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vicki

those are really good astro observations.. thanks for that... i really believe we are headed for a watershed moment in time going into 2020.. i can't point to any one factor, but you have just added another level of synchronicity to it here.. thanks!
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've probably said this before here that really the Revolution is about Blockchain and this is said to be 100% secure Ledger. A method of recording information such as Cash, Land Registers, Medical Records, etc. 132 uses so far found.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain

It is said to be 100% untamperable and also uses huge amounts of processing power and electricity. You can't alter the records. Mafia proof ?

Do we need that ? Interesting. Well I'd say that The Rich get rich usually at the expense of others' ignorance. Transparency is said to be important.

Um ?

I know that Chiron is said to be all about absolute hard won pure truth. Neptune NOT so.

I've looked back at the Charts in 2008 and 2009. Aug, Oct and Jan. I fully expect to see Jupiter in Virgo. For me Virgo is about detail and perfection. About Accounting.

Well that was the time wasn't it when Bankers and Investors began to notice the Sub Prime Loans problem. Good old Saturn. Entered in Sept 2007, permanently too. No Will It Won't It !!

Anyway for the 31st Oct chart there is Saturn in Virgo. Forming an applying trine to Jupiter in Capricorn. In fact for all the dates Saturn is in Virgo.

Now on the 21st Nov that trine becomes exact, and more interestingly Saturn will conjunct the trine degree in the next 15 months. Mar - Apr 2019.

[Interesting that peak Debt seems to hit towards the end of 2008 before the Great Recession and the Credit Crunch].

Now I don't really understand these ideas about a trine aspect and the planets completing that, but very clever people whose work I've read do.

Next thing is that Jupiter is around that 19° mark that Vicki is talking about.

Thanks for that. I've heard many theories as to there being a Black Hole there.

I'm slightly lost to the idea of Pluto's SN. But I assume that is calculate the same way as The Sun/ Moon and the more common Nodes.

Now for me having Pluto passing your normal North node wouldn't be great. A bit like somebody breaking your nose as you sniffed around somewhere that Angel's feared to tread.

As to the South Node, that'd be more like your Coccyx. As someone waiting for a sharp Sell Off in the Markets I'd feel the South Node of Pluto would be more related to advancement.

Letting go. Perhaps Vicki could explain more ?

BUT DOES ANY OF THIS EXPLAIN WHY BLOCKCHAIN WAS BORN ? NOT SO FAR IN MY MIND.

H

PS Got to wonder if the relations between Chiron, The Node and Neptune running up to the Birth of Blockchain sort of set up the possibility for something that will have few Boundaries, be about Absolute Knowledge (to heal? our pain) and be very Karmic.

It is NOT unreasonable to believe that the seeds of this idea had been many years in the making, coming to a peak I'd say when the above conjunctions between The Node, Chiron, and Neptune were at their strongest.

Yes I'd learned that Chiron was the Wounded Healer. Others say he is more like the Russian saying "A Man who has been beaten, and comes back to fight again, is worth 10 others".


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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right so I think the idea of the Chiron, Node, Neptune conjunction being important in this helps.

Further, we know that for a while the Inventor was Unknown or Anonymous.

I'd feel that publishing something Anonymously would be a Scorpio thing and a 3rd House thing.

We could then assume that the time of creation of the publication would be around 2am local time in Japan.

I'm hoping others will come in here as this is a lot of leg work.

From April 2008 The Node sweeps across Neptune in Aquarius and then Chiron too. Till Oct 17th.

That's about it from me. There is loads of information in that 31st Oct 2008 Chart.

Or is publishing more a 9th House. That'd give it a 2pm birth.

H

PS Of course it is Nonsense just to pick a Chart that looks interesting. But a 1pm Chart give Aquarius Rising. Scorpio on the 9th.

You could tinker with that.


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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deb says .... 9th House

"The publishing industry, long distance and international communications. Universities, colleges, all places of higher learning or specialist study; professors, philosophical and scientific institutions and publications. The Law society. "

We are helped by both the Sun and Mars being at home too.

I think we might have a Chart.

H

PS I can now think about the Open Source being offered on the 9th Jan. What'd we call that ? A gift ?
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