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I'm with the Zoid on much of this, even if Curtis you seem pretty Extreme at Time, and he expresses Things that need to be said and heard.

Perhaps he is the Martin Luther of our Times. Worth reading up on what Luther actually objected to ...

But in reality Capitalism now is a Ponzi Scheme, and as Interest Rates threaten it is now beginning to unravel.

And that is what is hitting Bitcoin.

The Astrological Factors are more complicated. The Node is in action here I feel.

H

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WooWoo wrote:But in reality Capitalism now is a Ponzi Scheme, and as Interest Rates threaten it is now beginning to unravel.
Thanks for the complement... but...

It's important to not allow your political masters to dictate your definitions. We in the USA haven't had capitalism for a very long time. The thing that people are being trained to hate is what can set people free. Authority abhors free markets and we don't currently have them. Big business has taken over government to rig markets in their favor and the banking system now uses currency as a means for control (using sanctions, fines for social control, taxes, etc). It is fascism, not capitalism. The end game of fascism is socialism / communism. Those saying that the USA is a capitalist country are liars. It started out that way after King George, but is no longer because freedom is the first thing to be extinguished in government's pursuit of control over a population.

The Ponzi schemes implemented by central banks are at the foundation of communism. The USA has been calling what they are doing capitalism incorrectly when it's been following communist policies for decades.

Governments form around means for control and they use labels very misleadingly. All governments seek to increase their power because at their base are humans driven to seek power and control. Freedom goes against government control, but slavery and collectivism serves it.
Curtis Manwaring
Zoidiasoft Technologies, LLC

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Coming up the second passage of the Saturn/Uranus square on June 14.
- May 23 Saturn R
- May 30 Mercury R
- June 10 A solar eclipse, in Gemini (Joe Biden's natal Sun/Venus is conjunct the US Mercury and transiting Pluto is conjunct his Progressed Mercury in a Profected Mercury Year (Gemini). SR Mercury conjunct natal Mars forming a T-Square with the Saturn/Uranus aspect of the year. We have already discussed our concern for his health mid-year in another post on Joe Biden's Profections)
- June 20 Neptune R
- June 22 Mercury D
- June 25 Jupiter R.
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"With Uranus, people tend to be early in their predictions. Their visions aren't necessarily wrong, but their timing can be off. With Saturn, on the other hand, people tend to be late. Saturn rules "delays." One party is early, and the other party is late, and the former leaves before the latter arrives. The result is not "acceptance." Now add Jupiter in Pisces to the mix, where people can become very euphoric ("irrational exuberance") about financial markets. We are not done yet. With Saturn/Uranus also doing its out of synch robotic dance during this same time, combined with a series of planetary stations (directional changes), euphoria can quickly turn to panic and hysteria. You might think: "What the (add your own slang here) is happening?"

With this in mind, get ready for a wild ride - it's starting. Have fun, responsibly. And don't put your lifestyle at risk on any trade unless you want to trade it in for another lifestyle."

Ray Merriman's weekly column 2021-05-17
Blessings!

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The astrologer Patrick Watson has advocated a New York rather than London (or Dublin) location for the Bitcoin inception chart.

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It is noteable that the Taurus full moon just before the crypto price plunge was almost exactly on this chart ASC.

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The Etherium chart (located for London) has its Scorpio ASC opposing the full moon.
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Mark
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In October 2011, Joshua Davis wrote an article in The New Yorker where he said
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011 ... o-currency
"When Satoshi Nakamoto created the first fifty bitcoins, now known as the “genesis block,??? he permanently embedded a brief line of text into the data: “The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks.???
This is a reference to a Times of London article that indicated that the British government had failed to stimulate the economy. Nakamoto appeared to be saying that it was time to try something new. The text, hidden amid a jumble of code, was a sort of digital battle cry. It also indicated that Nakamoto read a British newspaper. He used British spelling (“favour,??? “colour,??? “grey,??? “modernised???) and at one point described something as being “bloody hard.??? An apartment was a “flat,??? math was “maths,??? and his comments tended to appear after normal business hours ended in the United Kingdom. In an initial post announcing bitcoin, he employed American-style spelling. But after that a British style appeared to flow naturally."

From what we know from the astro-cryptos.github.io site
**The date that Satoshi Nakamoto registered the domain bitcoin.org on August 18, 2008
**The presentation of the whitepaper on October 31, 2008
**The creation of the Genesis block on January 3, 2009 - 18:05:15 GMT
**The date when the first Bitcoin client was launched on January 9, 2009
**The first transaction between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney on January 12, 2009 - 03:30:25 GMT
IMO the first transaction seems to be an important date like the date of the genesis block creation. The first transaction chart could be taken as a sub-chart of the genesis block chart or directly as the transaction chart. Also, it could be taken to compare it with the genesis block chart.

I will make a clarification, for the creation of the genesis block and the first transaction we have the UTC time (GMT-0), but we don’t have the location. It’s unknown where Satoshi was on that date, it’s assumed that he was in London but we don’t know. I use the topocentric house system because for me it is the most accurate one but to know where the ascendant and the cusps of the houses are, we need to know the place where the genesis was created or where the first transaction occurred. I take London as the location because it seems the chart that works better.

It would be interesting to see where Patrick Watson got the location in New York.
And thank you Mark for bringing up water to the mill.

Ouranos
Blessings!

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Hi Ouranos,

A lot of interesting dates to explore!

But I think the most popular is to use the genesis blockchain recorded as the 3rd of January 2009 at 18.15 UT. Still, you have a good point that the first transaction chart seems very relevant too. One could compare this to a 'first trade chart'' used for the floating of companies on a stock exchange.

Still, as you note there is no verified location for the creation of the Bitcoin blockchain.

Although in his interview with Chris Brennan , Robert Weinstein does opt for a London location for the genesis blockchain in the absence of anything definitive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdSLTMlLx8s

So all charts locations for this (including London) are speculative.

I personally, dont believe Satoshi Nakamoto is a real person and its most likely a pseudonym. Since Satoshi Nakamoto is so enigmatic it seems feasible to me the London newspaper was used as another evasion ploy to throw people even further off the true source. I think Patrick Watson thinks a group of New York financial experts had a role. New York is still the major global financial centre with both the NYSE and NASDAQ. But I will ask Patrick personally to clarify his take on this as I have only heard about his theory from another astrologer. His time is the New York equivalent the local time for the Bitcoin chart for London.

Mark
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In the article of the New Yorker, it is said “He’s a world-class programmer, with a deep understanding of the C++ programming language, “He understands economics, cryptography, and peer-to-peer networking.
Either there’s a team of people who worked on this, or this guy is a genius.???

Further
"Stuart Haber, a researcher at H.P. Labs, in Princeton. Haber is a director of the International Association for Cryptologic Research and knew all about bitcoin. “Whoever did this had a deep understanding of cryptography,??? Haber said when I called. “They’ve read the academic papers, they have a keen intelligence, and they’re combining the concepts in a genuinely new way.???

Haber noted that the community of cryptographers is very small: about three hundred people a year attend the most important conference, the annual gathering in Santa Barbara. In all likelihood, Nakamoto belonged to this insular world."

Whatever chart we choose, it could be approached with "Who is the Mother?" also relevant to the 10th House.
2 planets dignified - Venus (Pisces conjunct Fomalhaut) and Mars (Capricorn)
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So all charts locations for this (including London) are speculative.
But
*The first transaction between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney on January 12, 2009 - 03:30:25 GMT
For this reason I use a version of the Jan 12th chart - we don't know where "Satoshi" was but we do know where Hal Finney was based. So I set mine for there; at least that way I have a grounded place and time. [/quote]
"The universe is full of magical things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper" Eden Phillpotts

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Wednesday, the Bitcoin lost more than half of its record value April 14th at $64,869 US. courtesy of Jupiter in Pisces.
This is a classic example of Jupiter Mutable - Don't do what I say - And conflicting message saying a True and False at the same time.

2 factors:
1) Elon Musk decided in mid-May to refuse bitcoin payments for his electric vehicles, contrary to a previous commitment, citing the environmental risk caused by bitcoin mining. Before changing his mind. Fact is that he bought $1,5 Billions of bitcoin recently.
2) China has stirred the knife in the wound by declaring that virtual currencies should not and cannot be used in the market because they are not real currencies. Yet Beijing is also accelerating preparations to launch its own virtual currency, which will be issued and supervised by the Chinese central bank. This digital currency, the future means of electronic payment on smartphones to replace coins and banknotes, could make its debut in 2022 at the Olympic Winter Games in Beijing.
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Ouranos wrote:
China has stirred the knife in the wound by declaring that virtual currencies should not and cannot be used in the market because they are not real currencies. Yet Beijing is also accelerating preparations to launch its own virtual currency, which will be issued and supervised by the Chinese central bank. This digital currency, the future means of electronic payment on smartphones to replace coins and banknotes, could make its debut in 2022 at the Olympic Winter Games in Beijing.
Yes. I have been researching the Chinese Digital currency myself for a bit.
As this (and other state based digital currencies) will take us outside the scope of a thread created to discuss Bitcoin or crypto-currencies in general I have opened a fresh thread on this topic.

Mark
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