38 by johannes susato Sorry, see the other thread! http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic ... 6&start=15 Quote Fri Jul 02, 2021 4:09 pm
39 by skyrack Denmark v Czech Republic 2.10 3.80 Saturn & Mars v Venus Moon on cusp of 4th House Victory goes to the underdogs Moon Venus 90 Applicative +06:05:57 - negative Quote Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:44 am
40 by skyrack England v Ukraine 1.40 8.50 Saturn & Mars v Venus Moon Venus 90 Applicative +04:45:52 -negative Quote Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:44 am
41 by skyrack Italy v Spain 2.40 3.25 3.10 Jupiter & Mars v Mercury & Venus Moon Venus 60 Applicative +02:58:02 - negative Moon Mars 60 Applicative +06:55:59 - positive (if goes to penalties?) Venus Saturn 180 Applicative +00:24:08 - positive Quote Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:59 pm
42 by skyrack # England v Denmark 1.70 3.60 5.50 Jupiter & Mars v Mercury & Venus Moon Mercury 0 Applicative +04:12:38 FINAL - NEGATIVE Venus Saturn 180 Separative +00:52:08 - positive The omens do not look good for England. Any positivity coming from the Venus Saturn aspect is depleted by both it separating and not being partile by sharing the same degree. Quote Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:47 am
43 by Jupiterhead England v Denmark Odds: England 1.82 Denmark 5.9 - England clear favourite We ran every game through the Frawley and Leeham methods in 2016. Frawley failed but Leehman scored a 75% rate using the Asc as favourite. Here are her testimonies: -Ruler of 4th house in 7th house: (no points assigned). -Ruler of 7th house in 6th house: (no points assigned). -Ruler of 1st house in 2nd house: (no points assigned). -Sagittarius on 1st cusp: (no points assigned). -Moon in 6th house: 2 Points for Home Team. -Ruler of 1st in Sign of Rulership: 4 Points for Away Team. -Sagittarius Rising and Jupiter Retrograde: 3 Points for Home Team. -Ruler of Asc sextile Asc: 4 Points for Away Team. -Ruler of Asc trine MC: 4 Points for Away Team. -Moon in Gemini: 2 Points for Home Team. -Nearest separating aspect to the Moon is Moon sextile Mars and Mars is in the eighth house: (no points assigned). -Nearest applying aspect to the Moon is Moon conjunct Mercury and Mercury is in the sixth house: (no points assigned). Away Team (Denmark) Wins. But if we use the Asc as favourite England wins. If it's not astronomically true, it's not astrologically true. Quote Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:21 pm
44 by johannes susato Hello Jupiterhead, there is an agreement, to have the discussion in this other thread: http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic ... 6&start=15 So a clear overview over the judgment and the matches on the one side, and the discussion or critic on the other side is provided. Quote Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:28 pm
45 by skyrack Jupiterhead, Do you have details of the Lehman method? Possible testimonies and scoring? Quote Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:59 am
46 by skyrack England v Italy 2.62 3.00 3.00 (2.75 3.00 2.87) Saturn & Mars v Sun & Venus Some testimonies involving minor aspects are deemed unreliable by Frawley, and the following are ignored: Moon Sun Antiscion 60 Applicative +00:28:59 - negative Moon Mars Antiscion 90 Applicative +01:27:27 - positive Moon Venus Antiscion 90 Applicative +02:29:32 - negative Saturn Antiscion Pars Fortuna 60 Applicative +03:17:42 - positive These are the considered testimonies: Moon Saturn 180 Applicative +01:53:19 - positive Sun Pars Fortuna 180 Applicative +01:53:22 - negative (anomaly*) Frawley wrote: T h e n we have an anomaly. My experience is that: * Lord 7 to bodily opposition with Fortuna favours the underdogs. It would seem that this should work the other way round. There is another possible testimony. Possible because Frawley does not explicitly mention antiscia in the context of the nodes. Frawley wrote: The house placement of the Nodes doesn't seem significant, so for instance the North Node on the Ascendant doesn't favour the favourites. But significators falling on the Nodes will be helped or harmed. This is a powerful testimony. In this context, Fortuna can be taken as belonging to the favourite: Fortuna on the North Node helps the favourite; on the South Node it helps the underdog. Conjunctions only, within a couple of degrees at most. South Node Pars Fortuna Antiscion 0 Exact +00:16:41 - negative? Quote Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:58 am
47 by Challenger007 skyrack wrote:England v Italy 2.62 3.00 3.00 (2.75 3.00 2.87) Saturn & Mars v Sun & Venus Some testimonies involving minor aspects are deemed unreliable by Frawley, and the following are ignored: Moon Sun Antiscion 60 Applicative +00:28:59 - negative Moon Mars Antiscion 90 Applicative +01:27:27 - positive Moon Venus Antiscion 90 Applicative +02:29:32 - negative Saturn Antiscion Pars Fortuna 60 Applicative +03:17:42 - positive These are the considered testimonies: Moon Saturn 180 Applicative +01:53:19 - positive Sun Pars Fortuna 180 Applicative +01:53:22 - negative (anomaly*) Frawley wrote: T h e n we have an anomaly. My experience is that: * Lord 7 to bodily opposition with Fortuna favours the underdogs. It would seem that this should work the other way round. There is another possible testimony. Possible because Frawley does not explicitly mention antiscia in the context of the nodes. Frawley wrote: The house placement of the Nodes doesn't seem significant, so for instance the North Node on the Ascendant doesn't favour the favourites. But significators falling on the Nodes will be helped or harmed. This is a powerful testimony. In this context, Fortuna can be taken as belonging to the favourite: Fortuna on the North Node helps the favourite; on the South Node it helps the underdog. Conjunctions only, within a couple of degrees at most. South Node Pars Fortuna Antiscion 0 Exact +00:16:41 - negative? And what conclusion does this lead to? I didn't quite get it. the odds of winning in whose favor? Quote Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:21 pm
48 by skyrack The betting odds are shown 1 X 2. England favourites and shortening. In terms of testimonies, I would not like to choose between the 2 considered testimonies. So I guess that favours the favourites. But if Fortuna's antiscion on the South Node is a valid testimony then Italy are the winners. Draw your own conclusions...? Quote Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:08 pm