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james_m



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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:45 pm    Post subject: nov 19th 2021 eclipse - kyle rittenhouse - Reply with quote

tropical zodiac charts..

some of you diligent students of astrology might want to consider the connections between the LE and kyle rittenhouse's chart.. as it turns out the verdict came down on nov 19th, the day of the eclipse.. the event of the verdict seems to have polarized the usa people.. perhaps this is a consequence of how this LE was visible for many parts of the usa/canada including the place of where these events took place, including where the verdict was arrived at...

i am waiting to see an actual birth time for rittenhouse, but in the absence of one, i am using a noon chart for him...

below is a biwheel with his noon chart on the inside and the LE astro data on the outside.. a couple of immediate connections stand out... k

kyle venus at the verdict/LE sun/moon location..
kyles sun at the verdict/LE venus location..
kyles neptune at the verdict/LE saturn location..

those are the close aspects... also of note is kyles nodal axis is on its first return - which happens around the age of 18 - 19.. he will soon be 19..

in the past eclipses were always thought of as ominous.. i am not sure if that actually reflects the reality.. judith hill wrote a good book on eclipse data back to a persons chart... Eclipses and You: How to Align with Life's Hidden Tides
some might enjoy reading it..

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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:27 am    Post subject: Re: nov 19th 2021 eclipse - kyle rittenhouse - Reply with quote

james_m wrote:

kyle venus at the verdict/LE sun/moon location..
kyles sun at the verdict/LE venus location..
kyles neptune at the verdict/LE saturn location..

I would also note that the LE activates Kyles natal Uranus square with natal Venus-Mars. The LE Sun/Moon axis forms a t-square.
LE Mercury exactly conjunct Kyles natal Mars.
Mars is very closely (almost exact) opposing anarchistic Uranus in the LE chart too.
Thanks for bringing this up James. I wouldn't have looked otherwise. As usual, it's a shame we don't have a birth time.
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks aj!

you are correct.. i missed a few important connections there in my haste! i sure wish we had an accurate birth time for him as well... ultimately according to common astro doctrine, the connection of kyles venus to the eclipse data and transiting nodal axis might be considered the most significant...

tropical zodiac has the nodal axis in gemini/sag, while it will be in sidereal taurus/scorpio here, along with his venus which stays in sidereal scorpio... i associate venus in scorpio as some form of inheritance... but in this situation i am not sure that the inheritance as poster boy for a certain part of the population is a very good thing... in fact, it might ultimately be a very challenging thing for him as he moves forward in life..too much attention, especially at a young age, is dangerous set up as i see it..

until we see the set up of his chart, it is difficult to project much. however venus is said to be debilitated in scorpio.. i have never completely understood or appreciated the thinking on this.. it seems very black and white with no grey in-between.... perhaps there is a corrosive dynamic on relationships to this placement... it is the opposite of tranquil and peaceful which i think many would associate with venus, or the sign taurus... of course there are real strengths to the sign scorpio too, but i am not sure how they translate onto a person... i had one girlfriend with this placement.. it was a challenging relationship for me! i think there is something about death and moving onto the next stage about scorpio and not sure how that favours a person... jealously is also a particular dynamic of venus in scorpio as i understand it.. just ruminating here now!
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What strikes me in his chart is the Y planetary configuration with Saturn as the Apex of his square Mars/Uranus.
The Apex (Saturn) can be interpreted as a 'possible outlet to release and relieve whatever tension is involved in the relationship between the 2 planets forming the triangle's base (Mars/Uranus square)' (Rudhyar)
In this case, Saturn in Gemini will trigger (mental rigidity and narrow-mindedness) a need to seek a release through impulsive action (Mars/Uranus square).
And he was released when Jupiter made a trine to Saturn in this configuration
SA= MA/UR

Hard to understand the logic - "I am afraid by you. I have the right to shoot you!" It's called self-defense. The Far-West is closer than I thought!
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard an astrologer (Lada Ducheva) talking about how the Pleiades are involved in the eclipse. I wonder if this could point to some injustices, such as this case, and also another I read about where a rapist was given a slap on the wrist (the ruling was on the eclipse): https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wmar2news.com/news/local-news/states-attorney-voices-frustration-over-no-jail-time-in-rape-conviction%3f_amp=true

The weeping sisters could maybe show the injustices and blindness of the court system. I had not considered it in the eclipse but it makes sense for my own personal connections in natal too and I thought it was inciteful.

Side thing but she also predicted there may be issues with foods, money, resources of the land over the next 100 days. I saw a news report about oil reserves today.
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tanit3333 wrote:
I heard an astrologer (Lada Ducheva) talking about how the Pleiades are involved in the eclipse. I wonder if this could point to some injustices, such as this case, and also another I read about where a rapist was given a slap on the wrist (the ruling was on the eclipse): https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wmar2news.com/news/local-news/states-attorney-voices-frustration-over-no-jail-time-in-rape-conviction%3f_amp=true

The weeping sisters could maybe show the injustices and blindness of the court system. I had not considered it in the eclipse but it makes sense for my own personal connections in natal too and I thought it was inciteful.

Side thing but she also predicted there may be issues with foods, money, resources of the land over the next 100 days. I saw a news report about oil reserves today.


Interesting. My natal Sun in Pleiades, ruling my 10th. So, eclipse was right on it.
Well, "injustices and blindness", the case was easy and straightforward, so many strong evidence for just self-defenses, including FBIs surveillance drones filming.
But this case is so political, can this society accept than anyone can defend themselves and property/business against arsons, looters, robbery?
Or its like socialist revolution in Russia 1917 - just take whatever you want, nationalize properties, etc. And armed mobs will just take from you anything but you can't use arms for self-defenses, otherwise you're "counter-revolutionar"?
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I heard an astrologer (Lada Ducheva) talking about how the Pleiades are involved in the eclipse. I wonder if this could point to some injustices, such as this case, and also another I read about where a rapist was given a slap on the wrist (the ruling was on the eclipse):


Good point Tanit!

Here is a post on astrologyweekly on Algol in Horary
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/special-horary/algol.php
I think Fixed Stars help 'qualify' the Lunation cycle.
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually Algol along with Pleiades in traditional astrology associated with violent mob too, so it depends on astrologer's political preferences of how to interpret malefic stars in charts and which side of barricades to choose...

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Fixed star Algol is of the nature of Saturn and Jupiter (dignified, pious, conservative, acquisitive, retentive.) It causes misfortune, violence, decapitation, hanging, electrocution and mob violence, and gives a dogged and violent nature that causes death to the native or others. It is the most evil star in the heavens.

https://astrologyking.com/algol-star/
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also found that
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The Pleiades sit at around 28-29 degrees of Taurus to 0 degrees of Gemini and according to traditional astrology, whenever there was a planet or alignment close to this degree, it was typically seen as a bad omen.

This negative connotation however, was more likely due to the way feminine energy was interpreted at the time these records were made. As we know today, feminine energy is not inferior, unlucky or weaker than masculine energy, it is just different and necessary in its own way.

Today, in modern astrology, many believe that the highly advanced feminine energy held by the Pleiades has the ability to bring deep healing and connection into our lives, rather than bad omens.

Pleiadean energy is also associated with building healthy communities, learning to live off the land in a harmonious way, and creating a sense of love and belonging.
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a very positive quality to Algol of healing and the Saturn/Jupiter quality seems to give them a concern and an engagement to help solve society issues like Emma Watson and her engagement towards feminism. They are not afraid to take a stand.

Pierre Curie, a French physicist, a pioneer in crystallography, magnetism, piezoelectricity, and radioactivity.
Frank Wilczek, one of the Nobel recipient in physics in 2004 is a member of the Scientific Advisory Board for the Future of Life Institute, an organization that works to mitigate existential risks facing humanity, particularly existential risk from advanced artificial intelligence

My MC is conjunct Algol. I had a girlfriend early in my life who had her Sun conjunct Algol and she fought like no one else to create a local SPCA to rescue animals from abuse, pass humane laws and share resources with shelters.
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Eric Burdon has 4 planets on Algol in 6th house.
https://astrologyking.com/eric-burdon-horoscope/
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

his song could be probably manifested as "sounds of Algol"
https://youtu.be/4-43lLKaqBQ
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting Algol comments!

Personally, I have Mars conjunct Algol and for some 20 years, I couldn't sleep unless there was a blanket up around my neck to "protect" it. I have a weird feeling (true or not) that in some previous life I was beheaded or something similar, because "the neck has to be protected" feelings are so deep.

Not sure how this relates, but on the other hand, I *hate* turtle-neck sweaters or dickies. (those neck/bib type undergarments that used to be popular) If it doesn't have an openish collar, I ain't wearing it. Maybe I was hanged. (though Mars, of course, would be more fitting for cutting instruments)
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atlantean,
I had a student of mine with Sun conjunct Algol who told me once that he had this recurring dream that he was hanged.
I also remember when John Lennon died. He has Uranus on Algol and by relocation in New York this Uranus fell at the MC in his chart or Angular if my souvenir is good.. If I remember well, I think he received 4 bullets and one of them stopped in the nape. This is the one that was fatal I think.
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouranos wrote:
There is a very positive quality to Algol of healing and the Saturn/Jupiter quality seems to give them a concern and an engagement to help solve society issues like Emma Watson and her engagement towards feminism. They are not afraid to take a stand.

Pierre Curie, a French physicist, a pioneer in crystallography, magnetism, piezoelectricity, and radioactivity.
Frank Wilczek, one of the Nobel recipient in physics in 2004 is a member of the Scientific Advisory Board for the Future of Life Institute, an organization that works to mitigate existential risks facing humanity, particularly existential risk from advanced artificial intelligence

My MC is conjunct Algol. I had a girlfriend early in my life who had her Sun conjunct Algol and she fought like no one else to create a local SPCA to rescue animals from abuse, pass humane laws and share resources with shelters.


I've met at some Russian astroforum my astro-twin a long time ago, she born a day begore I was born. I've Mercury quite close on Algol and Sun in Pleiades. So, her Sun within acting orb closer to Algol.
She also told about what you've mentioned Algol's healing capabilities. She went to Afghanistan war during Soviet occupation as medical personal and got wounded in some action, came back with serious lasting leg injures and healed herself practicing some magic (sounds hard to believe)and developed skills to heal other people. I remember she had olso Moon-Jupiter conjunction in Aries and Scorpio AC (my is Libra) while we both having Sun and Mercury in 8th.
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