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Today's results:
Netherlands - Denmark 0-1
Germany - Portugal 1-0
Goca wrote:I would asign Germany to DSC ruler, Me in Pisces as they wear white sport kit. Moon is VOC so favorite wins or draw. Favorite is Germany, accidental dignities do not differ so much, but Antiscia POF is right on IC so I think Germany will win.
Well spotted, Goca! :'

Because I am not using the color method, I only find myself asking whether it could be that POF in aspect to it's dispositor was received as a benefic, and this is why the favourite won. In this case, I would ask whether POF, as a sensitive point, responds slightly differently to the significations of planet and aspect than say the asc.

It could be that you were correct, Goca, in assigning Germany to the descendent - but then my question is why they received the descendant, whether it was because you were successful with the color method, or successfully ascribed Portugal to to ascendant, i.e. Sagittarius asc with Jupiter in the femine sign Taurus (with translates into Pisces).

The antiscia of POF on the IC was another interesting point you included. I noticed it before the match, but wasn't sure whether it was good for the favourite because of the initiate nature of POF, or for the team signified by the 7th, or for the underdog due to the opposition to the MC.

I felt a bit sorry for Portugal (and felt like weeping) because I thought they put on a good fight and deserved a better outcome.
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Another few small reflections...

Gomez became matchwinner for Germany, scoring the only goal of the match. This occured in the last minute before he was due to be substituted. Does this have something to do with Jupiter in 30th degree of Taurus?

If Jupiter is the natural significator of Pisces and Portugal, I would like to mention my association of Pleiades with Aladdin's Lamp, or a Genie trapped in a bottle, because there is a wizard in Ronaldo, and his frustration must be tremendous from not having his potential released to be able to show his magic! :o

But then, can Jupiter both bear meaning for Gomez, as matchwinner, and for Portugal? :???:
Is it the fact that the chart is not radical and Mercury, LHr, rules the 7th house tht mixes everything up? Lastly, when the favourite can win from the descendant, should this be considered a fortitude?
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Sunday's Big Match!

Spain - Italy, 18.00 CEST, PGE Arena, Gda?sk (+2)
Odds: 1,82 3,45 4,80
Asc 15SC55 MC 6VI16 Moon 11PI06 POF 6LE50
Day Sun, Hour Mercury - not radical?
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The chart appears not to be radical, but the Moon, ascendant and Mercury, Lord of the Hour, are all in the triplicity of water. Mercury, LHr, is sextile the Midheaven and POF is intercepted in Leo on the Me/MC-midpoint. Spain are the title holders. I am looking to see whether they get their way with Italy this evening.
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Probably-possibly a goal around 18:40.
Looks bad for Spain at around 19:15 - 19:20.
Might even be decisive.
My guess: it will be Italy.
Moon in Pisces on IC by the end of the game over Madrid.
Ruling eight - a weeping moon (?)
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It could be that you were correct, Goca, in assigning Germany to the descendent - but then my question is why they received the descendant,
I use color method in all matches because, ASC for one team, and DSC for another team are all about apperance, that is the first impression what we get when ASC or DSC team run on playground and than we usually say: "White" are our team, and "red" are "enemy"(for example). And because Me and Can are related to white color I asign Germany to DSC because of their white sport kit. Ju, ruler of DSC is related to red color so Ju represent Portugal.
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I'm trying out Lunlumo's method, I probably interpret in my personal way so I'm not sure everyone will reach the same conclusions but its an experiment anyway...I've more or less tossed in the towel using other methods although Andrew and Goca seem to be doing okay so far.

First of all its a bit of a headache to do and the timings aren't exact obviously. When Ireland finish it should be around 9.45 pm for them and Sun is on the DC with SA applying MC. I looked at the interpretation for Sun and it speaks an emotional reaction of anger & disappointment so I took this to mean Ireland feel an injustice at the result, being deprived of a good result. However, the chart for Zagreb is lacklustre and less angular so my take on it is..

A win or draw for Ireland.

Spain v Italy have similar charts but Spain's is just a little more angular so whilst Roma JU is in mid 6H, Madrid JU is on cusp H7/DC.

A win for Spain.
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I use the method of picking the coach charts and look at transits and progressions. It sometimes fall out well. Let's see..

SPAIN-ITALY

Spains coach Vincente del Bosque
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicente_del_Bosque

Have a most positive progression in his chart.

P SU--00--JU

Transit node is squaring Jupiter.

This speaks for a general positive trend for Spain.

Todays transits are.
tr.VE--150--VE
TR Moon--60--VE

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Italy's coach Cesare Prandelli
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Prandelli

have some challenging transits in relation to sports. Which may also be
reflecting the scandalous events related to italian fotboll in general.
tr SA--45--MA
tr SA--45--SA (tr SA at ma/sa midpoint as well).


I feel Spain is winner tonight

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1:1
I wrote: "Looks bad for Spain at around 19:15 - 19:20. " Well, partly right -
there was the 1:0 for Italy at 19:17 - but just about four minutes later
it was 1:1.
:-?

Good match.

LL
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Lunlumo wrote:1:1
I wrote: "Looks bad for Spain at around 19:15 - 19:20. " Well, partly right -
there was the 1:0 for Italy at 19:17 - but just about four minutes later
it was 1:1.
:-?

Good match.

LL
Looking at the chart I'm guessing its the Mars conj MC that occurs in Spains chart but then I notice the same occurs in the chart set for Roma shortly afterwards.
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Monday, June 11. 2012

France - England, 19.00 (+3), Donbass Arena
Odds: 2,40 3,05 3,30
Asc 4SG46 MC 28VI02 Moon 23PI29 POF 7VI18
Day Moon, Hour Mars - radical by shared powers with sign on asc. and triplicity with Jupiter (VOC!)

This is a special chart. Not only is the North Node rising in the Sagittarius ascendant but its dispositor and ruler of the ascendant, Jupiter, changes signs during the match! The Moon applies to Jupiter but is left behind (voided or drifting?) in Pisces until she can tie up with him from Aries. Surely this will create a story?
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France are favourites by odds and I believe they may be given the ascendant. The South node is on the descendant. England haven't really succeed as a team in international tournaments of late, and I believe several of their key players are out with injury? However, Mercury, L7, is also lord of the Midheaven and is tightening in on a T-square with Uranus and opposite Pluto that might provide an underdog opportunity.

The chart could suggest the underdogs get it, but that is hardly a term the English squad have derserved. Or the result is spilt two ways and is a draw because of Jupiter standing on the threshold of two signs? The chart is interesting from a mundane perspective.
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The Desc team will win. I was going to ask which team is the guest, but now (after a bit of googling) I see this is not the case.
I don't think we can really predict which team will win without the host/guest relationship, in my opinion. Is there any way to see which team will do the first move? If so, then this is the Asc team.
Amor ordinem nescit.
Love does not know order.
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