49 by GB Tzadde wrote:Is there any way to see which team will do the first move? If so, then this is the Asc team. Assigning the Asc/Dsc is the critical issue. I agree that the Dsc team should win this one (agreeing with Andrew, and on accidental dignity of L1 and L7), but there seem to be four methods of deciding who gets what. 1. The home team gets the Asc. Clearly, in competitions like this, or other matches that are played on neutral grounds, we can't use that. 2. Give the Asc to the favourite. In this case that would be France, but not by much. The odds are reasonably balanced. At the moment France 2.6, England 3.2, so no very clear favourite/underdog. 3. Use the colour method. Here L1 is Jupiter and France play in blue so Asc = France. Also L7 is Mercury in Cancer, and England play in white, so we have further confirmation, L7 = England. 4. The Asc goes to whichever team starts the match (kicks-off). These does not seem to be any way to decide this in advance. I think it is based on the toss of a coin. It is certainly not the first named team. In Netherlands v Denmark, it was Netherlands (the first named team) who kicked-off; in Germany v Portugal it was Portugal (the second named team). I think all we can do is watch the start of the match live and then decide on who gets what. Quote Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:51 am
50 by Andrew Bevan The Asc goes to whichever team starts the match (kicks-off). These does not seem to be any way to decide this in advance. I think it is based on the toss of a coin. The North node is on the asc and the South node is on the des. Does that mean that 'Heads' it's France and 'Tails' it's England? http://www.astronor.com Quote Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:58 am
51 by Andrew Bevan France - England 1-1 Oh well... I think many people were expecting more from this match. I didn't get to see the game, but heard the commentary on the radio from the 2nd half. Did Jupiter's change of sign turn up anything at all? Both goals were in the first half... The draw would be explained by the radicality by triplicity, but even so the chart appeared to contain so much more excitement than such. http://www.astronor.com Quote Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:54 pm
52 by Andrew Bevan Sorry for initially producing the wrong chart Poland-Russia. I have been under a car most of the day doing maintance work. The correct chart follows further down below. Last edited by Andrew Bevan on Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:14 pm, edited 3 times in total. http://www.astronor.com Quote Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:45 pm
53 by Goca Andrew, you must cast the chart for 12 June, not 11.june... Greetings, Goca http://www.astrosport07.webs.com http://fensi88.livejournal.com/ Quote Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:52 pm
54 by Andrew Bevan Poland - Russia, 20.45 CEST (+2), National Stadium, Warsaw Odds: 3,20 3,10 2,40 Asc 20SG17 MC 23LI37 Moon 25PI05 POF 24VI08 Day Mars, Hour Moon - not radical Anyone feel free to comment the chart. http://www.astronor.com Quote Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:11 pm
55 by daz madrigal MO/UR conjunct, JU conj S.N...could be one for the underdogs, Greece. Mad Daz's Place, quiet but never boring http://pinkmelon.proboards82.com/index.cgi Quote Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:57 pm
56 by Goca According to colors I would asign DSC and its ruler Me to Poland because of white sport kit. ASC and its ruler Ju therefore represent Russia. Acc dig Me=17 Ju=11 This is not so much difference, but reegarding Moon;s aspect within 5 degrees we have square with Me and I think this make difference especially because Me by acc dig is a little stronger also, so I predict Poland win. Moon goes to conjunct Ur, that brings surprise, that fits with Poland win. Greetings, Goca http://www.astrosport07.webs.com http://fensi88.livejournal.com/ Quote Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:09 pm
57 by daz madrigal 2-0 to Czech after 5 minutes! I'm tempted to place a bet on Greece to win. Mad Daz's Place, quiet but never boring http://pinkmelon.proboards82.com/index.cgi Quote Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:15 pm
58 by daz madrigal Goca wrote:According to colors I would asign DSC and its ruler Me to Poland because of white sport kit. ASC and its ruler Ju therefore represent Russia. Acc dig Me=17 Ju=11 This is not so much difference, but reegarding Moon;s aspect within 5 degrees we have square with Me and I think this make difference especially because Me by acc dig is a little stronger also, so I predict Poland win. Moon goes to conjunct Ur, that brings surprise, that fits with Poland win. The colour system it seems is the way forward so it will be interesting to see if Poland win...whatever other system used so far just hasn't seemed to work. Mad Daz's Place, quiet but never boring http://pinkmelon.proboards82.com/index.cgi Quote Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:40 pm
59 by Goca Match ended as draw 1:1. Really do not know why that Moon;s aspect did not work. If there was not Moon;s aspect with L7 I would go for draw because of little difference in dignities and because of fact that Lord of Hour will change after 5min (Janis rule). Also I am wonder if fact that Ju and Me are in mixed reception, exaltation/sign has "something" with draw result . Last edited by Goca on Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:49 pm, edited 1 time in total. Greetings, Goca http://www.astrosport07.webs.com http://fensi88.livejournal.com/ Quote Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:46 pm
Euro 2012 Final 60 by jchart It's a long way through the final but I think it's interesting to look at the chart!!!! Ok so after making the chart for the event the Asc is in Capricorn while the Dsc is in Cancer.... colour kit for the Asc team might be black/Saturn in Libra,black/white, could be Germany, and Jupiter/blue in Gemini/yellow,coud be Sweden who knows... what's your opinion about this? Quote Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:47 pm