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Today's Political headlines here in America (San Francisco Chronicle newspaper):

"Trump, has GOP [Republican Parrty] backers on edge:
As wave of conflict grows, party leaders weigh action"

Yesterday's headlines:

Trump 'unfit,' Obama says, challenges GOP

http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/art ... 040064.php

Donald Trump, the "Lion King" himself with Mars on the Ascendant and Ascendant conjunct Regulus in Leo isn't backing down or responding to demands or requests in his own party. All is in turmoil in our country at the moment.

A president here in America has to have the ability to adjust and cooperate with Congress, the House of Representatives and Senate. Donald Trump's nature doesn't allow cooperation and working on an equal playing field with others. Mars on the ascendant is proving to be devisive. Astrologically, this election is fascinating to watch.
http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm

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Jupiter Libra transit

With Jupiter transiting Libra in September, I wonder it would result in favorable publicity for Trump.

Jupiter will leave its detriment and will transit his 3rd house. And it is also a Jupiter return for him.

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Isaac Starkman wrote:
Hillary Clinton will be the winner based on the following rectified charts.
Thank you Isaac I have recorded your prediction here.

I am curious about your rectified chart which seems very different from the times around 8am or 8pm most astrologers are using for Clinton. Did you have a source for such an early time or did you rely on a rectification from total scratch?

Thanks

Mark
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

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The astrologer Kevin Burk has done an analysis of the nomination charts for Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton:

Part 1: Trump Nomination chart: http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/nomin ... nald-trump

Part II: Clinton Nomination chart: http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/nomin ... ry-clinton


The political astrologer, Patrick Watson, who uses ancient techniques, has predicted a Clinton victory in November based on the nomination acceptance charts:

http://www.patrickwatsonastrologer.com/ ... one-wrong/

The Traditional astrologer Tania Daniels (a German astrologer, residing in Italy) has done pieces on both the nomination acceptance charts for Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton:

Hillary Clinton Nomination chart: http://www.taniadaniels.com/1007-2/

Donald Clinton Nomination chart: http://www.taniadaniels.com/astrologica ... ce-speech/

The English astrologer Steve Judd has done a short video on Clinton's nomination chart. He is relying on the chart for when the Democratic party proposed Clinton as the Democratic candidate rather than the more commonly used time for when Clinton accepted the nomination:

http://www.starsoverwashington.com/2016 ... steve.html
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Mark wrote:Isaac Starkman wrote:
Hillary Clinton will be the winner based on the following rectified charts.
Thank you Isaac I have recorded your prediction here.

I am curious about your rectified chart which seems very different from the times around 8am or 8pm most astrologers are using for Clinton. Did you have a source for such an early time or did you rely on a rectification from total scratch?

Thanks

Mark
In January 2005 the astrologer Zayin Cohen posted the time 2.18 am from the Birth Certificate. In the Noel Tyl's forum and astrodatabank forum he told that he was a former Mossad agent so he knows how to get official documents illegally. At that time I emailed him, but he explained he can't publish the birth certificate because the clerk will be reveled. He is a known astrologer so I don't think that he will earn anything by posting a fictional birth time.
See his facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zayin.cohen
http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1000000862/40
Reply #40 (Zayin Cohen)
User name Casandra in Reply #42 posted: "She has 14 Virgo rising based upon information from a contact in Illinois public records department".
At that time I rectified the chart to 01.29.37 am but it turn out to be incorrect. Now, with much more events (the birth dates for her 2 brothers were not known at that time) I rectified it to 01.55.40 CST.
Because we still don't have a copy of her B.C. I did a rectification from the scratch, using PSSR, secondary directions and especially my program Polaris.
The time 8 am or pm are pure fabrication, a figment of the imagination from Hillary herself and from her late mother.
This chart has some excellent aspects: Sun conjunct cusp 3rd trine Uranus in 10th. Angular Moon applying trine to Mercury, MC and Asc rulers, conjunct helio Mercury.
But the most extraordinary and very rare aspect is the conjunction of helio Venus and helio Jupiter EXACTLY 180 MC!
Helio Mars in 10th trine Sun.
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isaac,

thanks for reminding me why i had a chart for hillary clinton for 218am.. i had forgotten where i had gotten it, but i see it must have been via tyls forum a number of years ago.. i couldn't remember the source, but i recall thinking it was a pretty good chart in terms of connecting with a number of events off her life..

mark,

thanks for the additional astro pics here..

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Just a few observations re the nomination charts :-

Mark ? you did well to stop up until the ?wee small hours? to get the exact timing for Trump?s nomination acceptance. The exact time was crucial because this chart is uncanny. The ascendant of 1 Pisces 46 is within a few minutes of Trump?s radical Lot of Spirit at 1 Pisces 40 ! What about that?!

Barbara Watters claims that an ascendant in the 1st 3 degrees of a sign is invalid. She cites the example of Senator McGovern in 1972 who had an invalid ascendant and a void- of -course Moon. She said that because of this McGovern could never win, whoever stood against him. When I first read this and saw Trump?s early ascendant I thought, ?Well there it is ? Game over ? Clinton win !?

However she does say that if the early ascendant is in exact conjunction with a natal planet then the ascendant is no longer invalid. I do wonder whether the conjunction with Trump?s radical Lot of Spirit would qualify in this regard.

Next the issue of the void-of-course Moon at 26 Aquarius 26. It conjoins his Part of Fortune. In fact the Moon, Asc, and Neptune replicate his 7/8 houses radical Part of Fortune at 28 Aquarius 14, his Lot of Spirit at 1 Pisces 40 and his Pars Hyleg at 12 Pisces 20. To me this is a startling correspondence of Trump?s nomination acceptance chart with his natal chart. It will become equally startling on the day of the election with lunar aspects.

The same correspondence cannot be seen with Clinton?s nomination acceptance chart because of conflicting birth times. For this reason I have decided to work with none of the various charts for her. However I would make the speculative point that her nomination chart asc. at 6Aries35 is 6 degrees away from her Part of Fortune on the 8.02 am chart.
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james_m wrote:isaac,

thanks for reminding me why i had a chart for hillary clinton for 218am.. i had forgotten where i had gotten it, but i see it must have been via tyls forum a number of years ago.. i couldn't remember the source, but i recall thinking it was a pretty good chart in terms of connecting with a number of events off her life..

mark,

thanks for the additional astro pics here..
I have looked at the chart using 2.18 time given your endorsement. When I recast it at home I made a slight error when using a program I have not used in a while and got 13 degrees ascending rather than fourteen and was impressed when I saw the stars on the MC axis but then when I corrected to 14 that changed a bit.
If we accept that the 8 o'clock am or pm charts are way out then either of these are worth looking I consider
With 13 a sending I got Al Dabaran on the MC longitude and a current direction of square sun to Jupiter and on then Mars to MC from 17 Oct
With fourteen and 52 mins ASC I got square Venus to MC and on first glance this looks

She was First Lady in the White House so has obtained a metaphorical kingdom. There are no planets in the 10th but I consider that ruler Mercury to be besieged by benefics although Jupiter has moved into Sagittarius.
Luminary Moon is angular though just in the 7th house in Pisces well received by Jupiter who is Occidental as are the lesser planets and malefic Mars L8 in sect squares. Numerous aspects to Jupiter and the support of the Moon suggest greatness.
Saturn in the 12th in is no deal breaker as I am sure I have seen that in other leader charts and though in detriment in house of joy

Since Mark wrote about how the electoral system favours the Democrats Donald Trump seems to have found even more demographics to offend and one wonders if it is a foregone conclusion but I will look at the Ingrees chart and Donald's PD' perhaps and edit this

In fact the first chart I checked was the fall ingress and it looks like an ASC in the 29th degree. Can't think of any rule about late ascendents in Mundane charts but maybe it's foregone conclusion

Matthew

PS dated 24 aug 2014

Checked PD's taking Mercury and close benefics or Luminary as Greatness Planets and sq malefics as threats we see

sextile VE -> VE Oct 2014

Sq VE -> MC June 2016

Indicating current good prospects then :

Sq MARS -> luminary Moon Feb 2020

so no second term
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Yuzuru wrote:
Does anybody have any suggestions on how to find which party will win the legislative (senate, congress or both)?
Yes. I have data for charts for both the lower house in Congress (House of Representatives) and upper house (The Senate).

The Constitution was ratified by the end of 1788, and its full implementation was set for March 4, 1789. This was the date the Constitution came into legal effect.

However, there were not enough state representatives present to make the first meeting of the House of Representatives quorate on March 4th, 1789, New York city. The House of Representatives began work on April 1, 1789, in New York city, when it achieved a quorum for the first time. It is a convention going back to the Continental Congress that business begins at 10.00am

Regarding the Senate, there was also not enough electred Senators present to make the initial meeting quorate on March 4th 1789. The Senate, achieved a quorum for the first time when it met on April 6th 1789, New York city. Again I would suggest a time of 10.00am for this first meeting.

An alternative would be to look at the charts for the Republican and Democratic parties.

You could also look at the natal charts of key political figures.

Paul Ryan is the Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Ryan,_Paul

His Democratic party opposite number is Nancy Pelosi who is Minority Leader of the House of Representatives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Pelosi,_Nancy

Mark
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Not astrological but information for those making a prediction:

Keep track here:
http://www.270towin.com/

http://ijr.com/2016/08/662802-4-states- ... eat-again/

4 States Will Make or Break Donald Trump?s Attempt to ?Make America Great Again?
By Maegan Vazquez (August 3, 2016) | Elections

?Here?s where the Trump campaign plans to focus:?

Florida (29 electoral votes), Ohio (18), Pennsylvania (20), North Carolina (15). Total 82 electoral votes.

?But for the Trump campaign, it?s do or die based on these four states.?