Hello All,

Although I have been studying mundane astrology for over a decade and made many successful predictions in the realm of politics I have only been getting into financial astrology relatively recently. I have been trying to intensively read all the acknowledged classics in this area. I am compiling a comprehensive bibliography on that for everyone. I don't think there is currently any online resource that lists all the significant financial astrology books published to date.

My astrological interests at the moment are the astrology of reserve currencies, metals (especially gold), crude oil and cryptocurrencies.

I have noticed that financial astrologers are a fairly secretive group overall if you want information. You either need to buy into their services or sign up for their webinars. I suppose it makes sense. They are trying to make a living from this work and are not going to give away hard earned insights for free much. Still, there are some blogs/websites I think are very useful I will be highlighting for you. I may put up a blog/website of the month.

I have several research projects on the go I plan to post on:

1 Longer term cycles that may impact the markets-e.g. the solar cycle, nodal cycle, Saros cycle, lunar declination cycle, longer term planetary cycles.

2 Transits, returns, profections, eclipses etc to important national charts or stock market charts.

3 General market trends looking at astrology. Shorter aspectual cycles (e.g. Sun-Jupiter), ingresses, stations, retrogrades, and declination trends.

4 Stock market and Index chart horoscopes

5 Charts for currencies (esp US dollar)

6 A piece of research into the history of crude oil peaks and bottoms and the debate over its astrological ruler

7 A look at charts for cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin.

8 I am not personally following any companies or stocks. But I may examine some first trade data to see how useful that can be regarding a particular stock. If anyone has any examples they want me to explore it might be fun to adopt one here and use it as our astro research guinea pig!

I am not really into day trading but if anyone is interested in that please feel welcome to join in here and post your thoughts.

Thanks

Mark

Hello,
I noticed that conjuction of three planets is often correlated to stock market plummeting. That is why I was on the short side of the market in March. Hope that helps.

Wojtek wrote:

Hello,
I noticed that conjuction of three planets is often correlated to stock market plummeting. That is why I was on the short side of the market in March. Hope that helps.

Thanks. That would fit with Andre Barbault's planetary index. Because of the 4 planet stellium in Capricorn (Mars joined the action) he listed 2020-2021 as an all time low point in the 21st century.

Mark

I'll be interested in following your posts here, Mark. I've recently taken an interest in the stock market and have been actively swing trading since early April. ROI so far has been healthy, but have made absolutely no attempt at this stage to marry astrology to markets as it's enough for me to learn market terms and concepts at this stage! Will follow with interest, and perhaps contribute where I can (if I can!!).

Well I admire your Ambition and the decent Scots upfront way you have laid it out.

To some extent over the last 15 years or so I followed that "Traditional" path, but in the end I couldn't really find Sensitive Charts, and eventually took the Heratics' Path of using ONLY ongoing Transits, Ingresses and Aspect of Planets to each Other and Signs.

At times it works very well but I have to keep abreast of what was going on. And hence I logged it down below in the Sports and Speculation Section.

I'd like you to start a Gold Thread as you have stated you've bought some. I'd like to look into to it fully.

As ? Some feel that it will Tank. I accept that that doesn't seem Rational. But clearly it'd be good for you to know, and secondly it might be a Great Opportunity.

I started buying Stocks in 2000. And you pick up things along the Road. And one is that when Retail Speculators start telling each other what a Great Buy X,Y, or Z is then that is nearly for sure the sign that that Market is Topping.

I think Patience is hugely important. I've got the On Going charts printed off till the end of 2021. I sit and look thru them. I've also got the Empherius (sic) printed off too.

WAIT.. WAIT.. WAIT.. and then WAIT .. some More.

Intuition plays a Big Part for me. If that ? Then this !

I often say that in a Normal Year there will be 8 or 9 Good Opportunities, where the Markets will drop 2 or 3% quickly. A Normal Year.

I'm more of a Short Seller. Mostly.

And of those 8 or 9 I might be able to pick 4 or 5 successfully.

A lot of Sitting and Watching, and Disappointment when near the Time you notice some Aspect that will hinder the Selling. The Move.

I'll post more here as Thoughts come to me.

As to Charts. For sure a Sensitive Chart can upset my Approach. As I'm doing a Top Down Rolling Analysis I check from time to time the USA's Chart, China's, Trump's, The Feds's and to some extent the NYSE's and NASDAQ's.

It'd be great of have a Chart for the DAX. Surely there is one for the EU Stokks 50 ?

H

PS Personally, I am pleased that "Your Money Is Where Your Mouth Is" .... That makes the Exercise a completely different Thing. A Real Thing.

As a Scot I'd be surprised if you had NEVER strayed onto a Links. The Real Thing is very different to the the Crazy Gold at Troon, or a Pitch and Put. To the Driving Range.

And I've heard people say that they are good at Golf who have NEVER paid a Green Fee.

At the simplest Level just because you have to find a way to Translate one's Judgements into Speculations.

So as the Caddie's Advice has to be turned into a Shot.

Wade wrote:

I'll be interested in following your posts here, Mark. I've recently taken an interest in the stock market and have been actively swing trading since early April. ROI so far has been healthy, but have made absolutely no attempt at this stage to marry astrology to markets as it's enough for me to learn market terms and concepts at this stage! Will follow with interest, and perhaps contribute where I can (if I can!!).

Thanks Wade. I should mention I have a lot of commitments during June that will mean I probably cant do a lot until July.

However, I will pick things up then. I am no authority in this area but I do find it intriguing. Not because I am really that profit driven but rather because this seems one of the more tangible areas of astrology where wooly thinking and techniques that just don't fly will meet with a harsh reality shock.

By definition that means making some mistakes but that will be part of the learning curve. Fortunately, I will not be putting in any serious investment in at this stage! Once I have a better view on what techniques are most effective I will issue some predictions here. Although I have to state its really long term trends I will be examining in the markets. The astrology of short term trading is interesting but I have way too fixity in my own chart giving me a risk averse personality not compatible with that kind of speculation.

The longer term focus also means I can marry financial with mundane astrology work together. Ultimately, my whole interest in financial stems from the fact I noted several financial astrologers picked up the likely economic Tsunami of 2020-21. I have now formulated the view that in the modern world a mundane astrologer needs to look at society economically not just politically in terms of elections, referendums etc.

Unfortunately, in Britain astrologers like everyone else were generally completely absorbed in the political paralysis of Brexit and build up to general election last year. I personally took several months away from astrology after my accurate prediction of the UK general election.

However, there were astrologers who accurately forecast this astro-juggernaut pile up in Capricorn would cause financial havoc several years ago. This has all greatly increased my interest in working with planetary cycles. Not just the modern work of people like Barbault. I have also been seeking explanations for the events of 2020 from traditional mundane specialists. Its a bit off topic here but if your interested I can send you some analysis by Steven Birchfield who I personally regard as one of the greatest authorities on traditional mundane alive today.

Mark

Woo Woo wrote:

Woo Woo wrote:

Well I admire your Ambition and the decent Scots upfront way you have laid it out.

Thanks. As they say “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.???.


Woo Woo wrote:

To some extent over the last 15 years or so I followed that "Traditional" path, but in the end I couldn't really find Sensitive Charts, and eventually took the Heratics' Path of using ONLY ongoing Transits, Ingresses and Aspect of Planets to each Other and Signs.

At times it works very well but I have to keep abreast of what was going on. And hence I logged it down below in the Sports and Speculation Section.

I am open minded and have no preconceptions at this stage. I do think in regards global markets there is merit in what you state. In particular looking at transits, ingresses, and aspects are all clearly indicators of a potential trend change. I am very keen on declination. I think its an important tool in checking trend change too.

I am interested too though in charts for particular locations. I don't see many financial astrologers using more traditional methods like ingresses. I think these give a useful lay of the land. Similarly lunation charts are very useful. I would be using not just new moon charts (following Louise McWhirter) but also full moon charts.

Following planetary cycles is important I believe. Although my take on this is a bit different being more traditional. I count Mars as an ''outer planet'' too and I am especially interested in its cycle to Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto + the nodes. While I use outer planets my interest at present is confined to when they aspect the 7 traditional planets or nodes. With that approach the longest cycle I use is the 45 year Saturn-Uranus.


I know a lot of astrologers do use first trade charts. Incorporation data is harder to find. I also favour testing out charts for currencies, stock exchanges and indexes. I plan to look at the New York stock exchange chart in more detail. McWhirter used a Cancer rising chart but many prefer a later time giving a Leo rising chart.

And then there is the controversial area of planetary and/or sign associations for particular commodities. Gold and Crude Oil interest me the most at present as research areas.

I'd like you to start a Gold Thread as you have stated you've bought some. I'd like to look into to it fully.

Well there is nothing to stop you doing it Woo Woo! But if you can hang on until early July I will do it then. I having speaking commitments and other time consuming on then. Unlike a lot of people I have had a job that keeps me extremely busy even during a lockdown like this.

As ? Some feel that it will Tank. I accept that that doesn't seem Rational. But clearly it'd be good for you to know, and secondly it might be a Great Opportunity.

I guess I am firmly in the latter camp!

I started buying Stocks in 2000. And you pick up things along the Road. And one is that when Retail Speculators start telling each other what a Great Buy X,Y, or Z is then that is nearly for sure the sign that that Market is Topping.

Ok. Point noted. Makes sense.

I think Patience is hugely important. I've got the On Going charts printed off till the end of 2021. I sit and look thru them. I've also got the Empherius (sic) printed off too.

Yes I am seeing the advantage of keeping very well informed on aspectual connections coming up.

WAIT.. WAIT.. WAIT.. and then WAIT .. some More.

Intuition plays a Big Part for me. If that ? Then this !

Ok. Yes following your gut is always crucial in any predictive work too.

I often say that in a Normal Year there will be 8 or 9 Good Opportunities, where the Markets will drop 2 or 3% quickly. A Normal Year. [/quote]

I'm more of a Short Seller. Mostly.

And of those 8 or 9 I might be able to pick 4 or 5 successfully.

A lot of Sitting and Watching, and Disappointment when near the Time you notice some Aspect that will hinder the Selling. The Move.

I'll post more here as Thoughts come to me.

Your clearly a much braver man than I am Woo Woo! My chart has lot of fixity and little mutability. I don't think I could handle that kind of risky speculation. Good on you though.

As to Charts. For sure a Sensitive Chart can upset my Approach. As I'm doing a Top Down Rolling Analysis I check from time to time the USA's Chart, China's, Trump's, The Feds's and to some extent the NYSE's and NASDAQ's.

Right. Any particular US chart? I have also seen two different chart dates for the Fed.

It'd be great of have a Chart for the DAX. Surely there is one for the EU Stokks 50 ?

Well there is a date for the founding of the Dax. Cant you use a noon chart for that? Intrigued why your focus on the DAX particularly?

PS Personally, I am pleased that "Your Money Is Where Your Mouth Is" .... That makes the Exercise a completely different Thing. A Real Thing.

Well I need to do research too. Like on crude oil for example. So many different views on the planetary associations for that! So I will be putting up some historical research at some point.

Mark