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The Viking Raid on Lindisfarne

 
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seagull



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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:23 pm    Post subject: The Viking Raid on Lindisfarne Reply with quote

Hello,

the year 793 went down in history as the beginning of the Viking raids. That is not entirely true, because from Scandinavia there had been several raids on cities in continental Europe. But was on the tidal island of Lindisfarne off the coast on today's border between Scotland and England a monastery was the target of a Viking raid and Christian news coverage was extremely angry. This attack went down in the collective memory similar to the battle in the Catalaunian plains.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Catalaunian_Plains
https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/lindisfarne-priory/History/viking-raid/
https://www.britannica.com/event/Lindisfarne-Raid


Tidal island means that this island can be reached from the mainland at low tide and that this access is not possible at high tide. Lindisfarne later became a little known again because Roman Polanski made there the very worth seeing movie cul-de-sac.

https://www.criterion.com/films/27658-cul-de-sac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cul-de-sac_(1966_film)

The horoscope with sun = MC, because the exact clock time is not known.



With the very close mirror opposition of Mars and Saturn, there must have been murder and manslaughter.
The Uranus Neptune conjunction in the square to the sun can be translated as follows: Sudden danger from the sea is directed against the pronounced life.

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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

the beginning of the Viking raids on western and southern Europe is dated today in historiography on the date of the Viking raid on Lindisfarne Monastery in 793 AD.
The raids ended in 1066 AD as it is seen today.
That year there was both a major Viking attempt for an invasion of northern England and the Battle of Hastings.
The occasion for both conflicts was the death of the English King Edward the Confessor, who died without legitimate children.
Due to extensive family ties and commitments from Edward the Confessor there were several candidates to want the English royal crown.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_the_Confessor
Immediately after the death of the old king, the Anglo-Saxon Duke of Wessex Harald Godwinson was crowned and was de facto king.
Since his legal claim was disputed, it came first to the battle of Stamford Bridge.
The Norwegian King Harold Hardrare allied himself with Tostig, a brother of Harold Godwinson,
and invaded northern England with 300 warships.
After a few previous skirmishes, the Viking Norwegian army and the army of the "English" or Anglo-Saxons met at Stamford Bridge on each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stamford_Bridge
https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryMagazine/DestinationsUK/The-Battle-of-Stamford-Bridge/

The Vikings were completely defeated by the Anglo-Saxons.
That was the end of the Viking Age; at least from today's perspective of historiography.

The Horoscope of the Battle of Stamford Bridge with Sun = MC, because the exact clock time is not known:



The battle`s place is believed today some miles east from York at the Derwent river.

The topics that arise in connection with a real military conflict
you will be able to see primarily in astrological aspects of Mars.
These are:
Mars Mercury mirror square
(A mirror square you have, when 2 planets have the same distance on other sides of 15 ° Scorpio.)
Mars Pluto square
Mars Neptune opposition
Mars Jupiter square

Mars Mercury is real aggression based on a Pluto Scorpio background.
Mars Pluto is the aggression that is based on traditional, presumably inheritance disputes.
Mars Neptune indicates that there is the real escape of the inferior.
Mars Jupiter square: the war does not work out quite as successfully as hoped

Since Mercury is in a synthetic aspect to Jupiter and Mars in a separating aspect, it can be assumed that that Mars stands for the invaders from Norway and Mercury for the king Harold Godwinson.

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seagull


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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi seagull or norbertsco,

welcome to skyscript! i am intrigued by your posts and find delving into historical events - wars in these examples - quite fascinating... i am a bit reluctant to comment as i flick back and forth between zodiacs at the moment and can just as easily imagine the positions in sidereal...

i wonder if there are accurate birth times for some of the royalty you mention in these posts and whether there chart could be examined for shedding greater light on these events?

not being a real student of history, i am curious to know the motives for the vikings trips to the uk... was this to mostly pillage, or were they also intent on anything else in all this?? did any of these people suffer from periodic famine? i really don't know the background dynamics like these in order to better appreciate these events... thanks for your posts!
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is interesting that the viking raid chart has current Neptune transit almost exactly opposite its natal position & square the sun.How interesting to bring to light a battle from the sea (Tr Neptune square Sun opp Neptune) & the destruction of a Christian Monastery at time of current destruction of Christian values by the globalist elites the new Vikings of our times.
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi james m,

in this old times 1000 years ago or longer you normally do not know the birth times from people. Also not from kings.
In that times they mostly did not know at the birth if this person will become important or a king.
But when this person later became a king, then you often know the day of death.
As it is the case with the norwegian king Harold Hardrare, who died at the date of the battle at Stamford Bridge. From Harold Godwinson, Earl of Wessex you also do not know the exact birth time. But you know the day of his dead. That was the battle of Hastings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Hardrada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Godwinson
Of course there could be the possibility to take the horoscope of the dead instead of a king instead of the unknown birth time.
But there are not enough experiences with the handling and interpretation of the horoscopes of the dead.
I did it a few times. But that is not enough to make some general statements.
I do not know why there were this raids of vikings to middle europe and England in this viking age between 793 and 1066 AD. I think the social habits were belligerent at that times in scandinavia.
What do you say with flick back and forth between zodiacs?

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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Zosma,

yes, in the Lindisfarne horoscope there is a quadrat of Sun and Neptun with the very little orbis of only 0,3 degree.
That is the weakening (Ne) of life (sun).
The actuell Neptun transit with quadrat to the sun and opposite to Neptun of the Lindisfarne horoscope is perhaps a reason, that there is written about it in this days.

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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seagull,

let me put it another way... why did you focus on these 2 particular events? and what is the larger context that they fall within historically, or is there any greater context?? reading up on some of this, it seems like a lot of this was ongoing and the slow revelations of history.. so, why the focus on these particular 2 events???

from an astro point of view, the neptune-uranus conjunction in the first chart is interesting and maybe the most significant outer planet signature, although it has no relation to the 2nd chart astro data as i see it...

you are right - none of these characters have birth data generally the further back one goes... i know there is some data for royalty, but not in this case... one is lucky if they even have a birthday to go with the characters... however, this does change somewhere along the line - maybe a bit later time wise....

what i was saying which seems to have confused you is that one could just as easily look at these events in the sidereal zodiac as the tropical zodiac... i am not really saying much by saying this, except that is the basis for my reluctance to comment much of any of the astro.. the other part is i don't know the greater historical context that these events fall into... they might seem significant to the people of the uk, but to me - they look like the type of events that were happening all of europe over this time frame... cheers james
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello james,

it is very interesting to make an astrological view on historical events.
And when you want to take a horoscope for the astrological starting point, then there is the problem that you have only in a few cases an exact date when you look to dates at around 1000 AD or earlier.
Also many years before the raid on Lindisfarne there were raids on middeleurope.
But about that historians only know the year; perhas spring or summer.
And that is not enough to make an horoscope.
That are the reasons for the 2 horoscopes. You have exact dates.

There is also another context.
Historians see the beginning of the "Viking Age" at 793 AD with the raid on Lindisfarne and the end at 1066 AD with the attle of Stamford Bridge.
Therefore the 2 horoscopes show the beginning and the end of an "Age"; in the scientific view of historians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_Age

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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks seagull,

it is interesting what historians think is the beginning of a period and how astrologers look at the beginning of a cycle... sometimes they match up and sometimes they don't!
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