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Will England beat Croatia on Sunday?

 
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Harlequin



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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:03 pm    Post subject: Will England beat Croatia on Sunday? Reply with quote

9th. June 2021, 1:46 PM, Worcester, UK. 28 degrees 10 minutes Virgo rising.

England = Mercury, Croatia = Jupiter.

Frawley maintains that in contest charts accidental dignity is more important than essential dignity, so Mercury has the advantage here being in the ninth house and close to the ascendant while Jupiter is in the sixth, being within 5 degrees of the sixth house cusp.

However, Mercury is combust, which alone would give the match to Croatia, but Frawley says that a planet combust in its own sign isn't as afflicted as if it would be in another sign, so that could give England some hope. But, Jupiter is in its exaltation which makes it very strong, this could give Croatia the win.

Looks like it will be an interesting game, Croatia will play strong and could dominate the game. On balance, I think Croatia will win.
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skyrack



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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done an Event chart for this match rather than an horary.

As per Frawley:

England the favourites has Lord 1, Venus, in its own House 10, a minor positive testimony.
Lord 10 is the Moon and disregarded.
Croatia, the underdogs, have Lord 7, Mars, captured in House 10, a major positive testimony. (All testimonies viewed from the Favourites position.)
Lord 4 is nasty Saturn, another positive testimony.

The Moon is in House 10, a positive testimony.

The Moon is applying Conjuction Mars. This is normally a final negative testimony. But as Mars is captured in the 10th, I take this to reinforce the positive testimony.

All is stacked up for England to win - if my interpretation of Moon Conjunct a Captured Mars is correct.
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Harlequin



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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update to my horary...

The result ( England win) would seem to sugges, as Frawley maintains, that being combust isn't always the major debility it suggests.

Also, despite Jupiter being in its exaltation, Mercury's strength by accidental dignity would seem to trump that. Glad I got it wrong, but some interesting learning points!
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Austria are Mars and Mercury
N.Macedonia are Venus and Jupiter

Lord 1 Antiscion is on the cusp of the 7th House - positive testimony
Lord 10 is captive in the 7th House - negative testimony

Lord7 Antiscion is in House7 - minor negative testimony

Moon Antiscion is cuspal House7 - negative testimony

PoF Antiscion is in House1 - positive testimony

Moon is applying Conjuct Mars, then Moon Antiscion Sextile Mars - positive testimony

Austria to win
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holland are Jupiter and Venus.
Ukraine are Mercury and Mars.

Lord1 Antiscion is in House10 - minor positive testimony
Lord10 is Venus captive in House7 - negative testimony
Lord10 Antiscion is cuspal House7 - positive testimony
Lord7 is Mercury in House7 - minor negative testimony
Lord7 Antiscion is in House7 - minor negative testimony
PoF Antiscion is cuspal House1 - positive testimony
Moon applying Conjuct Mars - Final negative testimony

Ukraine to win.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skyrack wrote:
Holland are Jupiter and Venus.
Ukraine are Mercury and Mars.

Lord1 Antiscion is in House10 - minor positive testimony
Lord10 is Venus captive in House7 - negative testimony
Lord10 Antiscion is cuspal House7 - positive testimony
Lord7 is Mercury in House7 - minor negative testimony
Lord7 Antiscion is in House7 - minor negative testimony
PoF Antiscion is cuspal House1 - positive testimony
Moon applying Conjuct Mars - Final negative testimony

Ukraine to win.


Wow this was close. It was an entertaining match that’s for sure.
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skyrack



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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotland v. Czech Republic

Venus v Mars & Saturn
Lord1 is Venus in House10 - minor positive testimony
Lord7 is Mars in House10 - positive testimony
<Moon> - final negative testimony
Lord4 <Moon> - final negative testimony
Lord1 PoF <Venus> - positive testimony

Czech Republic to win
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poland v Slovakia
Mars & Mercury v Venus & Jupiter
Lord1 Antiscion is in House7 - negative
Lord7 Antiscion is in House7 - minor negative
Moon Antiscion is cuspal House7 - negative
<Moon> - negative

Slovakia to win
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spain v Sweden
Jupiter & Venus v Mercury & Mars
Lord10 Antiscion is cuspal House7 - positive and outweighs the next two testimonies
Lord7 is Mercury cuspal House7
Lord7 Antiscion is in House7

Spain to win
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