Capricorn-Ingress 2023 1 by linchi Capricorn-Ingress 2023 JU/UR = CU/SA = SA/PL = MA/AP = AP/PO = HA/KR = MN/KR = SA/HA = UR/KR = SU = ZE = Ariespoint HA/KR = Ariespoint : unsuccessful conspiracy (according to Rulebook for the Planetary Pictures) SA/MN = SA/CU = SA/PL : suppressed, forbidden contacts, MA/AP = AP/PO = UR/JU = SU = ZE : will be restored, allowed. I think in 2023 the corona measures that are being implemented right now by almost all governments will be repealed. When you see the planets that are above, SU,MA,JU,UR,AP at the Aries point, I think there is hope. https://archive.org/details/@cemalcicek Quote Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:46 am
2 by Therese Hamilton Linchi, let's hope that your prediction is correct! I always thought that it is the tropical Capricorn ingress that is significant because it marks the autumnal equinox? The sidereal Capricorn ingress is just another solar ingress, but all 12 solar ingresses are significant for the month in question. I've found that these sidereal ingresses can clearly mark earthquake months for relevant locations on earth. (The Lahiri ayanamsa doesn't work for these ingresses, only Krishnamurti works.) http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm Quote Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:54 pm
3 by linchi I hope so too, Therese. I take what works with the practical examples using my method, leave out what does not work. I have used Capricorn Ingress with transits in my work " Alfred Witte's Kronos - Earthquakes". The transits to the ingress, although they took place almost at the end of the year e.g. November , have always shown earthquake events. Therese Hamilton wrote:The sidereal Capricorn ingress is just another solar ingress, but all 12 solar ingresses are significant for the month in question. Are there any examples of this here in Skyscript ? https://archive.org/details/@cemalcicek Quote Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:38 pm
4 by Therese Hamilton Linchi, just as an experiment, could you test the Capricorn tropical ingress for the Haiti quake? It's the solstice date that is said to be important, not the tropical sign of Capricorn which I don't think exists. The siderealists of the Fagan school also place the greatest emphasis on the sidereal Capricorn ingress, but of course their ayanamsa is off. Several years ago I had an earthquake topic here on Skyscript. I have to go back and post the charts that have been erased. Then I'll post the link here. For now, here is the Cancer ingress for the Haiti quake. The Cancer ingress is in the center of the bi-wheel; the quake is the outer ring. (Notes below) EDIT: The original EST quake chart has been replaced with the correct EDT chart. Of course when we’re working with planetary positions as they appear actually appear in the sky, we can’t expect the precision to the second of harmonics. I take a three degree orb to the angles as reasonable. I’ve usually found that the solar ingress chart shows the quake more clearly than the quake itself. According to siderealists of the Fagan school, only the angles are significant in charts. I also add aspects to the angles within three degrees. In the Cancer ingress chart the relevant aspect is the 8th house (full aspect) of Mars to Neptune (mythologically the earthshaker) at the MC. We don’t count the 8th house (quincunx) aspect of Venus because that aspect belongs only to Mars according to India’s astrology. Pluto is also sextile Neptune and the MC. At the time of the quake the Sun has come to the degree of ingress Mars setting off the 8th house aspect to the MC and Neptune. Pluto has retrograded to the degree of the ingress MC with an 8 minute orb. Last edited by Therese Hamilton on Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:53 pm, edited 1 time in total. http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm Quote Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:04 pm
5 by linchi Therese, I have to correct the time zone you have in the chart for earthquakes because it has to be EDT, not EST. "At 08:29:09 EDT on 14 August 2021...." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Haiti_earthquake https://archive.org/details/@cemalcicek Quote Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:38 pm
6 by Therese Hamilton You are right!! My old Solar Fire gave me EST. I should have noticed that. But the ingress chart is the same since it's set for zero Cancer. I'll post the corrected chart and notes in my above post with an EDIT correction. Last edited by Therese Hamilton on Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:57 pm, edited 2 times in total. http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm Quote Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:11 pm
7 by linchi As I show below, the sidereal Capricorn ingress shows the earthquake, not tropical. Comparison of tropical Capricorn-Ingress with sidereal Capricorn-Ingress 2021 Haiti Earthquake Tropical Capricorn-Ingress : 21.12.2020 5:02:18 > Cap Sun Transit : At 8:29:09 a.m. EDT on 14 August 2021 (Harmonic 16) t MA/SA = - t SU = r VE/UR Sidereal Capricorn-Ingress : 13.01.2021 19:35:06 > Cap Sun Transit : At 8:29:09 a.m. EDT on 14 August 2021 (Harmonic 16) t MA/SA = t SA/KR = t MO/NE = r MC/KR = r AC/KR t SU = r SU/KR = MO/PL t JU/KR = r JU t JU = r JU/KR Last edited by linchi on Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:54 pm, edited 1 time in total. https://archive.org/details/@cemalcicek Quote Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:29 pm
8 by Therese Hamilton Good to know that the tropical ingress may not be significant as it's said to be. I've never researched the topical ingresses. http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm Quote Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:38 pm
9 by linchi I have noticed my astrology program, Zet, has also chosen wrong time zone (EST). Of course, the transit AC and MC positions change. Other planetary pictures above post, do not change. sidereal (Harmonic 16) t AC/MC = t SU/KR = r AC/UR = r MC/UR https://archive.org/details/@cemalcicek Quote Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:47 pm
10 by Therese Hamilton Yes, only the Ascendant and MC change. Only a minute or two change for other planets. So the Cancer ingress aspects of Mars (set off by the quake Sun) and Pluto to the MC remain the same. (I have posted the corrected chart above.) But (If I'm reading your chart correctly...I'm not sure?), isn't it interesting that quake Pluto and Mars conjoin natal Pluto (in the 16th harmonic?), the same planets that aspect the MC in the Cancer ingress chart. I think it would be helpful for those of us unschooled in your methods if you could clearly label the bi-wheels you post by name, inside wheel and transits. Maybe it's obvious and I'm just not seeing it! http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm Quote Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:03 pm
11 by linchi If we compare sidereal capricorn ingress with sidereal cancer ingress, I would say both ingresses with secondary progressions show the earthquake. Harmonic 4096 Secondary (Harmonic 4096) Capricorn-Ingress p MA/SA = r MA/SA = r JU/KR = r JU/PL p MA/SA = 0° 02' 48'' r MA/SA = 0° 02' 50'' r JU/KR = 0° 02' 51'' r JU/PL = 0° 00' 13'' + 0° 02' 38'' = 0° 02' 51'' Cancer-Ingress Secondary (Harmonic 4096) p MA/SA = p MA/JU = r MA/SA = r JU/PL p MA/SA = 0° 02' 16'' p MA/JU = 0° 03' 35'' - 0° 01' 19'' = 0° 02' 16'' r MA/SA = 0° 00' 57'' + 0° 01' 19'' = 0° 02' 16'' r JU/PL = 0° 03' 36'' - 0° 01' 19'' = 0° 02' 17'' https://archive.org/details/@cemalcicek Quote Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:59 pm
12 by linchi Therese Hamilton wrote:But (If I'm reading your chart correctly...I'm not sure?), isn't it interesting that quake Pluto and Mars conjoin natal Pluto (in the 16th harmonic?), the same planets that aspect the MC in the Cancer ingress chart. I think it would be helpful for those of us unschooled in your methods if you could clearly label the bi-wheels you post by name, inside wheel and transits. Maybe it's obvious and I'm just not seeing it! Therese, inner circle with black planets are the radix, outer planets with blue colors are transit planets. I thought it was obvious, sorry for that. The image does not look as clear as I want it to. Of course Mars and Pluto also important, but I'm mainly concerned to show Sun, Jupiter, Saturn and Kronos, the most important planets in an earthquake. https://archive.org/details/@cemalcicek Quote Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:16 pm