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John Gadbury

Doctrine of Horary Questions, Chapter 9, part 3.

The following reproduces Chapter 9, part 3 (Interrogatories and judgements belonging to the Seventh House) of John Gadbury's Doctrine of Horary Questions, published 1658. The text has been annotated and lightly edited to bring spellings up to date.

This Part will admit of these several Sections following:

  1. Of Fugitives or Strays, shall they be found or not?
  2. Which way are they gone? what distance?
  3. Things lost, if recoverable, or not?
  4. Who is the Thief? of the Age and Sex of the Thief.
  5. Are there more Thieves than one?
  6. Be they Strangers, or Familiars?
  7. In what time shall the Thing stolen be recovered?

SECT. 1.

Of the Fugitives or Strays,
shall they be found or not?
  1. The Moon and Mercury are naturally the Significators of Fugitives and strays: But the seventh House and his Lord particularly are Significators thereof; unless the thing strayed be a Beast, &c.

  2. If the Lord of the Seventh thereof shall be Retrograde, the fugitive shall return again of his own accord, before he goeth very far from the Querent's House, or from the place whence he went.

  3. The Lord of the Ascendant or Moon, in good Aspect with the Lord of the seventh, and the Lord of the seventh apply, it declares the fugitive to be coming home again. If he do not apply, the Querent may find him by enquiry.[1]

  4. But if the aforesaid Significators behold each other by square or opposition, or shall be in no Aspect at all; it denotes the Fugitive unwilling to return again, and an unlikelihood of the Querent's having him again: If the Lord of the seventh be in the Third or Ninth, you may say the Fugitive is gone a journey, and will not suddenly be found again.

  5. If a Horse, Ox or Cow, &c. be strayed, observe the Lord of the Twelfth; and if he be found Retrograde, you may judge the stray will return of its own accord; and observe the same rules as before, only with the change of the Lord of your House.[2]

  6. If the Moon shall transfer the Light of the Lord of the Fugitive or Stray to the Lord of the Ascendant, it argues hopes of recovering them again. If she transfer Mercury's Light or virtue, &c. it signifies the same.

  7. The Moon in Good configuration with Jupiter or Venus, or either of them casting a good aspect to the Ascendant or his Lord, from good Houses of the Figure, shows hopes of a recovery.

  8. The Lord of the seventh in the twelfth House of the Figure or Question, denotes the Fugitive to be under the Bonds of restraint, perhaps in a Prison: Mercury posited so, argues the same.

  9. When in the Figure you find any Planet separating from the Lord of the House of the Moon, the Beast &c. strayed is taken into custody and driven away and sold: if any planet shall be found to separate from the Lord of the second, the same.

  10. If the Moon or Significator of ...

  1. ... the Stray &c. shall apply to the Lord of the Eighth from his Ascendant, or shall be in the Eighth, it is then dead. If the Dispositor of the Moon, or Significator of the Beast shall be posited in the Eighth House, applying to the square or opposition of an Infortune in the Fourth, the same.

  2. The Lord of the Sixth or Twelfth, in the Sixth or Twelfth, or in the Ninth or Tenth, argues the Beasts strayed to be either in the Pound, or under the Command of some Officer.[3]

  3. The Lord of the Seventh, Twelfth, or Sixth, fortunated by the good Beams of Jupiter or Venus in the second, fifth or eleventh houses, or the Sun casting a trine unto them there, they are very likely to be found again.

SECT. 2.

Which way are they gone? what distance?
  1. The Moon or Significator of the Fugitive or stray, &c. is in the Tenth House, they are South; in the seventh, West; in the fourth North, in the Ascendant, East.

  2. If the Significator of the strays be in watery signs, they are Northward, and in some moist Moorish places. If in Airy signs, they are westward, and in Mountainous and high places. If in Earthy Signs, they are Southward, and in Melancholy Desert places, as Woods, &c. If in Fiery Signs, they are Eastward; and in open Places, where ground hath been newly digged up: you must always prefer the Sign before the Quarter.

  3. The Moon in the same Quarter with the Lord of the Ascendant, there being not above one sign distance between them, they are then near the place whence they went at first. But if they are distant above ninety Degrees, then they are gone far from the Querent.

  4. If the Moon be distant from the Significator of the Fugitive or Stray, either seventeen furlongs, &c. from the Owner; if in Common Signs, they are five furlongs distant from the Owner, if in fixed signs they are one furlong distant from the Owner: when there is a greater distance in Degrees, proportion your distance or place according to this Rule.

SECT. 3.

Of things lost, if recoverable or not?
  1. Fortunate Planets in sextile or trine to the Lords of the Ascendant or second house, and dispositor of the Part of Fortune posited in the Ascendant or second House, declares recovery of the goods lost.

  2. Either of the fortunes in the Ascendant, having Dignities in the second house, or the Moon in the seventh, in sextile or trine to the Lord of the Ascendant; both these are very certain Arguments of a recovery of the Thing or Things lost.

  3. The Moon in the Tenth, in trine to a Planet in the second, or in the second in trine to the Lord of the second or the Dispositor of the part of Fortune, the Lord of the Ascendant in the Second; the lights in trine to each other or in trine to the Cusp of the second House, or the Lord of the second in the eleventh or fourth Houses; all these are Arguments of recovery.

  4. The Lord of the Eighth in the Ascendant, or with the Lord of the Ascendant, denotes a recovery of the Goods lost: Jupiter, Venus or North Node in the eleventh house, give great hopes of the same also, and this I have often proved true.
  1. The Moon, part of Fortune or his Dispositors, or Lord of the second in the eighth House, is a great Argument that the Goods lost cannot be recovered.

  2. When both Luminaries are under the Earth, the Thing lost is hard to be recovered: If the second House or his Lord be any way hindered, it denotes the same.

  3. But the greatest argument of an irrecovery, are the position of Saturn, Mars or South Node out of their essential Dignities in the second house; or the Lord of the second being either in Combustion, or in the eighth House; or if the Lord of the second be in square or opposition with the Lord of the eighth.

  4. Mr. Lilly saith, If the Lord of the seventh shall be in conjunction with the Lord of the Eighth; or if the Lord of the second behold not the first house, or Lord thereof; or the Sun and Moon are not aspecting each other or Part of Fortune; or when they are both under the Earth; there can be no restitution of the goods lost.

SECT. 4.

Who is the Thief? and of his Age and Sex.
  1. Astrologers account a Peregrine Planet in an angle the significator of the Thief; chiefly, if the Peregrine Planet have Dignities in the seventh House, or be Lord thereof: Because (say they) he being out of all his essential Dignities, may he well supposed to be in a condition necessitous and consequently shall prove the Thief: The inference doth not naturally follow the premises; for a man may be poor and honest; and although the Planet in an angle be peregrine; yet, if he neither afflict the substance, or his Lord; the part of fortune, or his Lord, &c. I shall take him to signifie a poor honest man in his place; but cannot admit him as significator of a Thief.

  2. When no Planet maliciously Aspects the aforesaid Significators, you may admit the Lord of the Seventh to signifie the Thief because he hath natural signification of theft and Thieves.

  3. Let the planet afflicting the substance, or part of Fortune, or their Lords, be Peregrine, or essentially dignified, he shall signifie the Thief. And whereas some exempt a Planet essentially dignified, from participating in any thing of this nature, I do not; for such a planet, as he is strong, he is able to do the most mischief. [4]

  4. If the planet afflicting the substance, &c. be masculine, and in a masculine sign and Quarter, it denotes the Thief to be a man. If the Planet be feminine, and in fortunate parts of the figure, you may conclude that the Thief is feminine, or a woman.

  5. Saturn significator of the Thief, shows the Thief to be old, except in the beginning of Signs: The Sun, Mars and Jupiter, about thirty, or somewhat more; Venus and Mercury, youthful; the Moon, according to her age; in the first quarter, she signifies young; in her second quarter, between twenty and thirty; in her third, between thirty and forty five; in her fourth, between forty five and sixty.

  6. A planet being in his Orientality, denotes the Thief more young; but in his Occidentality, the Thief is more aged. And thus much may serve for the Significator of the Thief, and for the discovery of the Age and Sex thereof.
SECT. 5.

Are there more Thieves than one?
  1. Many Planets afflicting the Significators of substance, (it matters not whether they be Peregrine or not) show many Thieves, or more Thieves than one.

  2. If the Significator of the Thief be in sextile or trine with other Planets, chiefly in double-bodied Signs, there are more Thieves than one, although but one be found to afflict the Significators of substance.

  3. The Angles of the Figure fixed, and the Significator of the Thief fixed, in no Aspect with any planet save the Lord of Substance, or Dispositor of the Part of Fortune, whom he afflicts; these denote but one Thief only in the theft or knavery committed.

SECT. 6.

Be they Strangers, or Familiars?
  1. The Luminaries beholding the Ascendant (or his Lord) or the Lord of the First in the first, in conjunction with the Lord of the Seventh; denotes the Thief to be a familiar, or one known to the Loser.

  2. When the Lights are in their proper Houses [ie., signs], or in the Houses of the Lord of the Ascendant, or in the Triplicity of the Lord of the Ascendant, it denotes the Thief well known to the Querent or Loser.

  3. The signification of the Thief strong in the Ascendant; noteth a Brother or Kinsman, chiefly if he chance to be the Lord of the Third: The Lord of the seventh in the seventh, he is of the household.

  4. The Lord of the Ascendant in the third or fourth house (saith Mr. Lilly) accuseth thine own household servant, And this (saith he) I have oft proved true by experience.

  5. The Significator of the Thief, in the Third or Ninth from his own House shews the Thief to be a stranger. If the Lord of the Ascendant, and the seventh, or significator of the Thief, be not of one Triplicity, it denotes the same.

  6. Mars or Mercury significator of the Thief, presages him to be a common knave; unless they govern a House of relation: which if they do, then they tell you who it is.

  7. If the Thief be Domestical, Mr. Lilly teacheth us to know him thus: - the Sun signifies Father or Mother; Moon the Mother or Mistress; Venus the Wife or a woman; Saturn a servant, or a stranger lying there by chance; Mars a Son, Brother, or Kinsman; Mercury a youth, Familiar or Friend. And so I conclude this Section.

SECT. 7.

In what time shall the Thing stolen be recovered?
  1. Seeing testimonies of recovery in your Figure, you may also discover the time thus: - Observe the application of the two Planets signifying recovery, and consider the Degrees of distance between their body or Aspect, and so turn the distance into time.
  1. If they happen to be in moveable [ie, cardinal] signs, then give so many weeks or days as you have Degrees of distance, for the space, or time in which it may be recovered. If in common signs, give monthes or weeks: If fixed signs, Years or Monthes.

  2. When the Sun and Moon together behold the Ascendant, the Thing lost shall suddenly be recovered; for they suffer nothing to lie long hid, or obscured: And if at the same time, the Lord of the Second be in the Ascendant, it will be had again very speedily.

  3. The Significators increasing in light and motion, and posited in fortunate places of the Figure, presage a sudden recovery of the Goods lost or missing.

I could have been more large in each particular of this Chapter; but my intent was to furnish the ingenious with the best and most approved Rules, and not with impertinent flourishes: besides, should I have added each trivial circumstance, I should have obstructed the active fancie of some, and blunted the edge of the quick genius of others; both which sins I have avoided, by contracting my matter in this short (yet I presume sufficient) compass.

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1] That is, if the Lord of the 7th, being the speedier planet, makes an application to a good aspect of the Lord of the Asc. or Moon, the fugitive returns of his own violition. If this is not the case, the fact that a good aspect exists between the significators indicates that the fugitive is capable of being found.
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2] Because the 12th house is used to signify 'great cattle', such as horses, oxen, etc.
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3] This and the following aphorism applies to straying beasts or servants/slaves.
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4] Gadbury therefore primarily takes signification of the thief from the planet which afflicts the significator of the goods. Lacking a suitably 'afflicting' planet, he defaults to the ruler of the 7th house regardless of whether it is essentially dignified or peregrine. He clearly doesn't use essential dignity as a symbol of moral fortitude, honour or personal integrity; only as a symbol of effectiveness and power which expresses itself through status and professional standing.
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© Transcribed and annotated by Deborah Houlding, 2004

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